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Heartbreaking (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Yuritopiaposadism@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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[-] principalkohoutek@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Obviously trying to poison the well of support for Palestine by aligning it with the most notorious terrorist organization in the world

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

CIA in 2003: "We should find a bunch of people who can speak Middle Eastern and Asian dialects, so that we can better translate and interpret conversations between people in these countries. Lets go find native speakers and bring them on board."

CIA in 2023: walter-shock

[-] WayeeCool@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] teeforlove@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

There will be a vacancy for a senior CIA position soon, and a funeral for someone killed for being pro-Palestine. Totally unrelated ofc.

[-] 4zi@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Lived by waging unbridled terrorism on the working class around the world, died by posting

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Damn imagine being so ruthless that even a CIA Official start posting against you.

[-] Aqua@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

Apologies if this is insensitive (I haven’t kept up with the news), but isn’t Palestine the “good” side?

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

That's a funny way to phrase it, but ostensibly, yes Palestine is the side which has a right to exist and is not a settler colonialist entity.

The reason behind the post is the irony behind a CIA official recognizing this, when the CIA has undermined Palestinian freedom (and the freedom of countless other nations and groups).

[-] Aqua@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

Sorry, didn’t know how else to how phrase it. 😅

Thanks for the answer, helps a lot.

[-] davel@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

“Heartbreaking” is an inside joke in reference to heartbreakingHeartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point.”

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Yes, in the most reductive but broadly true terms possible: CIA (or US and Israel) is the "bad side" and Palestinians are on the "good side."

The US and Israel, which the CIA and Mossad are the weapons of, represent oppression, land theft, murder, genocide.

Palestinians are oppressed by the US/Israel. Their individual actions may not always be described as "morally good" but in the grand narrative their cause is always righteous and just.

People on the side of injustice and unrighteousness would rather have you focus on single individual actions that most people can agree, in isolation, are morally bad. They want you to forget all context that led to that action, they want you to condemn the righteous cause based on those isolated events, they want you to side with the unjust.

That's how I would better frame it, btw. If you want a reductive, quick framing you have a side that fights for justice and one which de facto is fighting for injustice.

Much like slave revolts throughout history including in the US. Just as anti-apartheid resistance in South Africa was sometimes violent. Just as every socialist and communist revolution has to have an element of violence. Those who oppress others will never relinquish control without force and condemning the enslaved or oppressed for how they fight their brutal enslavers is never the correct outlook.

(Got ADHD sidetracked, oh well)

[-] Aqua@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago
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