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submitted 11 months ago by yogthos@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml

Twenty months ago, after Vladimir Putin had launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine, many high-ranking Russians believed that the end was near. The economy faced disaster, as they saw it, and the Putin regime was on the brink of collapse.

Today, the mood has changed dramatically. Business leaders, officials and ordinary people tell me that the economy has stabilized, defying the Western sanctions that were once expected to have a devastating effect. Putin’s regime, they say, looks more stable than at any other time in the past two years.

-Real estate prices are rising, and construction is booming. At the beginning of 2022, most global brands left Russia, leaving empty storefronts in malls and streets. Now, the gaps have been filled by Russian counterparts, as the chief executive of one retail network told me. Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, recently admitted that the Russian economy had faced “a threat of collapse” in the months after the invasion but said the country is now over the worst.

Before the war, Russian business executives generally kept their savings in the West. They also bought real estate, properties that sometimes served as second homes for their families. Now, as one Russian oligarch told me, that door has been slammed shut, sparking an investment boom at home.

-After the invasion, the International Monetary Fund estimated that the Russian economy would fall by 2.3 percent in 2023. In January 2023, the IMF changed its forecast, predicting growth of 0.3 percent. It changed its forecasts at least two more times during the year; in October, it finally settled on a figure of 2.2 percent.

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[-] Swinging6917@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 11 months ago

I once read that some Russian diplomat said "we spit on sanctions" so here you go. Let's all spit on Western sanctions targeted towards any country that defies their hegemony.

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 11 months ago
[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 11 months ago

"Many high level Russians, the biggest Russians, believe me."

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 11 months ago

Putin: "We have the biggest Russians! Only the very best! Sleepy Joe can't compete!"

[-] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

If he means a large chunk of art parasites and certain capitalists that started fleeing like rats back then, he ain't wrong. It's more of a problem that they're basically welcome to come back no strings attached unless they were labeled as foreign agents or tried for something or other in absentia. And the only inconvenience for the former is that they have to register, sign their publications a certain way and report on their activity, spending and sources of income.

I just don't know what those have to do with public opinion. There are some opinion leaders among those that cater to the fragmented remains of Navalny's hamsters, but...LOL.

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

high level Russians

[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 11 months ago

full-scale invasion

he said the thing!!

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago
[-] Deadend@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Isn’t war good for the economy in the short term?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 11 months ago

The military industrial complex is definitely playing a role here, but it seems like the economy is growing even outside of that. One big reason is that western companies leaving along with the sanctions created voids that are now being filled domestically. For example, a lot of manufacturing that wasn't competitive to do before all of a sudden started being worth doing.

In fact, it looks like Russian economy is actually overheating right now where they're running into a problem of not having enough people to do all the labour. This is leading Russia to start leveraging partnerships with DPRK and former USSR republics to outsource manufacturing there.

[-] ProbablyKaffe@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 11 months ago

No, but war does force Capital to engage in planning and economic mobilization. There has also been a vacuum in the market left by western firms and fleeing Russian bougies. This war has not been good in the short nor long term for the Ukrainian economy.

[-] GiantSpoonWielder@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago

I don't think it's quite so simple as war is good for the economy in any term. War can have loads of positive and negative effects on an economy. It seems to me the war is good for the economy idea is an American construction as military spending is the only jobs program our ruling class likes to support, and military intervention is necessary to defend western economic hegemony.

We should also be aware those effects will be experienced differently by the ruling and working classes. War can shift economic focus away from satisfying domestic needs and allow certain industries and their owners to flourish and gain influence while workers see increased austerity and reduction in rights.

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