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[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 212 points 2 years ago

Easy to learn, hard to master, used for things it wasn’t created for.

Yep.

[-] dreadgoat@kbin.social 145 points 2 years ago

used for things it wasn’t created for

I think Python gets a point here, as it is very good at doing what it was created for.
Javascript even sucks at its stated goal.

[-] MaximumOverflow@lemmy.ca 94 points 2 years ago

You don't master Javascript, ever. You just become accustomed to the madness and stop caring, while sometimes doing things right.

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago
[-] thewebroach@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Gotta say, ive done magical things in Javascript. NodeJS in particular can do damn near anything you set your mind to, and it doesnt give a damn if you use tab or 4 spaces.

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

For real, you really can do anything there, sometimes sacrificing efficiency, but still.

[-] MaxElFantasma@mujico.org 15 points 2 years ago

used for things it wasn’t created for.

so, like 90% of all programming languages

[-] Reborn2966@feddit.it 11 points 2 years ago

what was the original goal of python?

[-] Kerrigor@kbin.social 52 points 2 years ago

sssssssssssssss

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago

The goal for Python 3 was to be an all purpose language that the general population could use for their everyday computing tasks

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

Looking nice and upsetting people.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

That tracks

[-] illectrility@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Can confirm

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

But they're both programming languages...

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

That’s the joke

It’s implying js isn’t a programming language because web stuff isn’t real programming

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Web stuff is like 99% of all programming across the world, but okay.

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Don’t get mad at me I’m just explaining it

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Not even close.

Most software out there is not consumer facing (there is a huge amount of custom stuff inside companies of all sizes) and even in the consumer space most software nowadays resides in ... smartphones.

Unless, of course, you count HTML (literally a Markup Language, so data formatting for display not code) as programming, in which case I'll leave you to enjoy your fantasy world.

[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You kinda forget that for each front end you see theres at least 4 times more backend to support it.

Also there are ton of non fron facing software.

Anyway its not really a competition. No one will be offended if you are wrong or not.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

The back-end functionality is still web functionality. Just because a user doesn't see all the server stuff doesn't mean it's not necessary to support a website. There are billions of websites across the world, and they almost all use some combination of back-end, front-end, database, and server code.

[-] ShadedCosmos@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I think they meant javascript is to web dev as python is to software dev

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago

it's a 4chan post, they don't "think" they are lawless animals, deprived from any sense of rationality

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

I think it's a 4chan post and thus intentionally dumb.

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[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 108 points 2 years ago

Because JavaScript isn't a programming language, it's a compilation target 😅

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

the SAD reality!

[-] betternotbigger@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago

This one triggers the entire spectrum of human emotion.

[-] garyyo@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

Python is the connective tissue holding together library calls and some of our most advanced AI research is reliant on that. mildly concerning

Many banking systems sync with one another with txt files so... Yeah...

[-] Cratermaker@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago

If you think that's bad, don't think about how many important communications in the world happen completely verbally.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Pretty much all online service APIs (Google APIs, Facebook and so on) out there are text-based.

Granted, JSON formatted text, but still absolutelly human readable text.

The reason for that is because it's agnostic of the machine architectures (stuff like endianess) on both sides.

The really crazy stuff in banking are the old binary protocols (like EDF) from the time when bandwidth was way less than now (so, the early 90s and earlier).

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago
[-] grue@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

(Nobody tell him about the Cobol batch jobs that still run overnight.)

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

You don't want to know how bad it is. A good friend is a consultant/business analyst for some salesforce-based loan software. Shit's terrifying.

[-] funkless@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

SFDC itself is written in Java but uses Javascript-esque APEX for whitelabel development?

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[-] CriticallyCarmelized@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Many banking systems sync with one another with txt files.

[-] PeteZ@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I had to do a project once with JavaScript. I did not enjoy the experience. In my opinion, a language where you need a reference to tell true from false is a bad language. So maybe JavaScript is the JavaScript of languages.

[-] Admin@tsck.org 16 points 2 years ago

Javascript is the javascript of JavaScript

[-] Skymt@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

It's only JavaScript if it is from the ECMA region in Europe. Otherwise it's just sparkling java...

[-] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

I'm not a programmer but I took a class in JavaScript. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by reference, I don't recall that feature of the language. Can you explain?

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[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago
[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago

That's not even good rage bait.

Rage bait would be for example if you said "they could fix everything that's wrong with PHP but Python already exists".

[-] colourlessidea@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago

Since JavaScript is newer than Python, sure JS is the Python of programming languages /s

[-] _s10e@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago
[-] cia@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Wait let's hear him out

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