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submitted 11 months ago by otter@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world

Mr Krupski said he had found evidence in company data which suggested that requirements relating to the safe operation of vehicles that had a certain level of autonomous or assistive-driving technology had not been followed.

He added that even Tesla employees had spoken to him about vehicles randomly braking in response to non-existent obstacles - known as "phantom braking". This also came up in the data he obtained around customer complaints.

Mr Krupski said he had felt compelled to share what he had found with data protection authorities.

The US Department of Justice have been investigating Tesla over its claims relating to its assisted driving features since January. Tesla has also faced similar probes and questions from agencies including the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about its autopilot system.

German newspaper Handelsblatt published the "Tesla Files" after Mr Krupski shared 100GB of internal data he discovered.

The data protection authority in the Netherlands, where Tesla's European headquarters are based, confirmed to the BBC it had been notified of the data breach and was looking into the claim.

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[-] Pohl@lemmy.world 88 points 11 months ago

I know for a fact that Tesla puts parts on the road that have not completed validation testing. The majors would refuse deliver of parts at that lifecycle stage and Tesla is shipping them to customers.

They do not give a shit about safety. Tesla is a company that makes stock hype, the cars are an incidental byproduct.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 30 points 11 months ago

Have people already forgot when they put cars on the road that had pieces of wood ziptied to it, because they ran out of materials? Why would you ever trust that company.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Oh man, do you have a link? Haven't heard that one.

[-] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago
[-] Qkall@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

A bit off topic... But it's really weird that you find out a mutual associate is a writer for a living... I know the writer... Didn't know until I clicked this... Hilarious

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wow I can’t believe a car that has its radar prematurely ditched because of Elno’s wishful thinking and relies 100% on a computer vision model, which isn’t even a solved problem, phantom brakes. /s

[-] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

They were also phantom breaking when they used radar. Surprisingly the amount of phantom breaking has reduced since transitioning to pure computer vision (IME).

[-] burliman@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

At least once a day I’m behind a human driver that does the phantom brake thing.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Sorry, that's just me downshifting.

[-] meepmeep@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I just need to hear the wapapapapapapap as I shift into neutral

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

At least the build quality is still top notch..

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 29 points 11 months ago

Damn that's just sad. Especially for that price.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it's priced like a Jaguar and built like a Yugo.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 months ago

More about the files

https://cleantechnica.com/2023/05/28/tesla-100-gb-data-bomb-turned-over-to-handelsblatt/

Handelsblatt (paywall), one of Germany’s top news organizations, says it has received over 100 GB of data from one or more Tesla employees. It broke the story with this headline: “‘My autopilot almost killed me’: Tesla files cast doubt on Elon Musk’s promises.” Those reports suggest that Tesla failed to adequately protect data from customers, employees, and business partners and has received thousands of customer complaints regarding the carmaker’s driver assistance system, according to The Guardian.

That’s not all. Handelsbatt says that included in the data are tables containing more than 100,000 names of former and current employees, including the social security number of CEO Elon Musk, along with private email addresses, phone numbers, salaries of employees, bank details of customers, and secret details from production.

Data protection in Germany is primarily governed by the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). The data protection office in Brandenburg, where Tesla’s European gigafactory is located, described the data leak as massive. “I can’t remember such a scale,” the Brandenburg data protection officer, Dagmar Hartge, told The Guardian.

If such a violation is proved, Tesla could be fined up to 4% of its annual sales, which could be €3.26 billion ($3.5 billion). Just this week, Meta, the parent company of Facebook, was given a record €1.2 billion fine by the EU privacy regulator over its handling of user information and given five months to stop transferring user data to the US. Tesla Data Breach Details

The complaints, which were reported across the US, Europe, and Asia, span from 2015 to March 2022. During this period, Handelsblatt says Tesla customers in the US, Europe, and Asia reported more than 2,400 self-acceleration issues and 1,500 braking problems. These include 139 reports of “unintentional emergency braking” and 383 reports of “phantom stops” from false collision warnings. Other reports are about instances of claimed sudden acceleration, some of which caused cars to end up in a ditch, hit walls, or crash into oncoming vehicles.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

How is that news, what with all the accidents they’ve been involved in?

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago

Confirmation that they very much knew about the issues. It's the difference between negligence and recklessness.

[-] wagesj45@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Judging by the crash test videos of the Cybertruck, this does not surprise me in the least. Why make cars safe when you could just not save some money?

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Lucasz Krupski leaked data, including customer complaints about Tesla's braking and self-driving software, to German newspaper Handelsblatt in May.

But, in his first UK interview, Mr Krupski told the BBC's technology editor, Zoe Kleinman, he was concerned about how AI was being used - to power Tesla's autopilot service.

Mr Krupski said he had found evidence in company data which suggested that requirements relating to the safe operation of vehicles that had a certain level of autonomous or assistive-driving technology had not been followed.

Tesla has also faced similar probes and questions from agencies including the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration about its autopilot system.

Jack Stilgoe, an associate professor at University College London who researches autonomous vehicles, said Mr Krupski's claims raised wider concerns about the technology.

The UK Government announced plans for an Automated Vehicles Bill to outline a legal framework for self-driving cars in the King's Speech in early November.


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[-] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 11 months ago

It's interesting how AutoTLDR bot changed the spelling of his name

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