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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by cheese_greater@lemmy.world to c/adhd@lemmy.world

K, so I see posts wayyyy to often where the OP is crying and miserable about the way their pharmacy treats them like shit and never is on top of making sure they have your meds available and/or ready for you come refill day.

If this is ever the case, you need to fire your pharmacy and find a better one. Usually, smaller mom+pop or smaller local chains will appreciate your business and help you ideally with these things without you even having to ask (or only requiring one-time orientation on what your preferences are as they relate to servics they usually do or should be offering:

  • fill your meds automatically without you having to ask

  • ensuring it is in stock without you having to worry in order for them to fill said refills

  • advise you of any complications or further steps required of you to help them make sure you're taken care of and consistent with refills

  • remind YOU about shit, not the other way around. My pharmacy might as well be my unpaid intern/executive assistant with all things medical as they pertain to my business/the privelege of getting said business I grant them

  • delivery: this is non-negotiable. If they ain't delivering, I ain't playin'. My pharmacy knows that to be my drug dealer, they gotta come to me. Cuz I ain't leaving the couch to get my drugs

  • deal with dr for you if any discrepancy or error is in the way. This is the beauty of medical practices with adjoining pharms. Ethics be damned, vertical/horizontal integration 4 the win!

That is all. Your pharmacy should feel so lucky to have a good get like AD(H)D patients, I would rather have that then a money printer if I was a pharmacy owner.

Spread the word and f all that noise. You are worthy to be waited on and catered to, controlled substance or otherwise.

Not sure if this is cogent but I take rhe 2nd rarest (prescribed/available) medication next to Desoxyn and I've never had an issue getting it filled, even in the depths of the Great Adderall Shortage although it wasn't Adderall so not sure how relevant my n=1 is this context

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[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

~~To my knowledge, you cannot get stimulants delivered~~, and I have to call in every month for them to get filled. I’m not sure if the latter could be taken care of by the pharmacy. I have Costco pharmacy, and I really like them.

Edit: Please see the comment below, apparently you can get stimulants through mail if you use a mail-in pharmacy. So please check with your doctor/pharmacy regarding this.

[-] QualifiedKitten@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

I'm in the US and my (generic) Adderall XR is delivered via USPS, so it's definitely possible.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm fairly certain it's up to state law.

[-] QualifiedKitten@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

The WebMD article does indicate that the specifics vary by state, but it sounds to me that delivery of a 1 month supply is legal in all 50 states.

Because they’re schedule II drugs, you may not be able to get a bulk delivery. State regulations on prescribing these types of medications vary, so you may be able to get only a month’s worth of your ADHD medication at a time and need a new prescription for each refill. Some states also require an electronic prescription be submitted by the doctor.

https://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/adhd-med-home-delivery

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[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

TIL, I'll look into this. It would be nice to get it shipped. What pharmacy do you use, if you don't mind me asking?

Edit: Please note that apparently you can get stimulants delivered through mail.

[-] QualifiedKitten@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it's been super awesome, and I've never run into any shortages. I'm with Kaiser and they really push their patients to use their pharmacy, so I have a suspicion that's not the case for you. I've heard that many insurance companies have a preferred mail order pharmacy, so you might want to dig around with your insurance company to see if they have a preferred partner. If that doesn't work out, searching "mail order adderall" seems to turn up some possibilities, but I can't vouch for any of them. Your prescribing doctor may also have suggestions.

[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Got it, yeah, Kaiser is a different beast, but I'll see if I can do anything on my end. My insurance's preferred pharmacy is CVS, and I stopped using them cause they never had any Adderall during the shortage.

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Loved Kaiser

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

What State do you reside in?

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[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

State law, but also your insurance and pharmacy benefit manager. Our pbm only allows 30 days of any Rx (pain in the ass for "round the clock" birth control) and the thing is we can pay cash and get more, but this is so hard to communicate to the pharmacies, like literally every time they just fill the 30 days and you're arguing with some poor tech holding up the line

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I emigrated from the US to Canada and I was fucking amazed when my GP wrote a script for 90 days of methylphenidate... and just recently I has a three month out-of-country remote working gig and Canada was totally fine giving me a 120 day supply of my meds in advance for travel. Also, without extended insurance, my meds cost me 10$ for 30 days up here.

It's so fucking nice not living under the US Healthcare system.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, was a bit of a culture shock going the other direction. I literally didn’t go to a hospital with a broken ankle because I was uninsured. Wrapped it tight, stayed off of it, and luckily it seems to have healed properly on its own.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That happened with me one time where I went to a pharmacy in a grocery store with 3 previous months' bottles and he just wrote me a script for 180 filled right there.

I won't get into it but suffice it to say that was a weird 2 months ;) life was much harder and more perilous back then...

Edit: also like the biggest horse pill-bottle I've ever seen or retained possession of

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[-] jnovinger@programming.dev 17 points 11 months ago

Anecdata here in the US, but my local mom and pop pharmacy (which I love) currently would lose $200/mo on my vyvanse because of my insurance and the whole generic vyvanse nonsense. This system sucks.

For the time being, I fill my vyvanse at Walgreens and hope they're losing $200/mo on it. I fill everything else at the mom and pop, until they let me know the situation is better.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Why is ANYONE losing money to fill scripts, I really don't understand any of this...

[-] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They're saying lots of insurance plans don't cover mom and pop shops unfortunately

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

That should be illegal, all this Roaming for Healthcare shite is absolute nonsense.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

As someone who works at a company that analyzes the US Healthcare market.... you'd be amazed at how much shit they do that should be illegal.

Did you know that it's not uncommon in the US for drug manufacturing to pay consumers' out of pocket cost for really expensive medication? I.e. some medication would cost you 3,000/month to fill after insurance so the manufacturer offers you 3,000 dollars every month to take it.

Does that sound good? Maybe on the surface but what's actually going on is that the list price of your medication might be 12,000/mo and the manufacturer did some research and determined you're unlikely to be able to afford it so they'd be missing out on their 10,500/mo in profit from you. But gosh golly, do you know what's better than 0/mo? 7,500/mo, if they hand you a drug card that covers your out of pocket costs, they can still get the money your insurance company would cover, yay!

And you know what that sort of money printing machine encourages? Prescribing your drug to everyone!

BTW, don't feel bad for the insurers here, they're utter fucking bastards too. Everybody in this market is fucking awful, even, and especially, the fucking hospitals.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Should be, but it essentially locks in those patients to a specific pharmacy for a negotiated rate. “Okay, we will give you an extra 10% discount on prescriptions, but all of your insured have to go through us” type deal.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That is completely insane, the US is just a bunch of sketchy corporate boredrooms standing on top of each other in a smoky, murderous trenchcoat

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

God damn, my Vyvanse and two other meds cost me $10 to refill.

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

In the US, the problem is whether your insurance works with a specific pharmacy or not. My parents go to Walgreens and their service is fairly awful - out of stock on some things, say they have our package and then can't find it after a 45 minute wait, and the 45 minute waits in general. Seems they have no idea how to staff or predict busy times properly as sometimes you go in and there's 1 person in line and 3 peple working, and other times, 15 people in line and 1 person working. I suggested they choose various other pharmacies but apparently they can't due to insurance.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

If that's the case, that is beyond moronic. Fuck their system is stupid.

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

The US insurance system is one of the most ridiculous corporate bureaucracies and consumer ripoff scheme ever devised. It was amazing to see the blitz of corporate propaganda unleashed when the Obama admin was trying to reform it (Clintons tried, too) and the deluded people (Republicans, of course) were enraged and terrified at anything changing (I LIKE my plan!! and my favorite, "Keep the government away from my Medicare!")

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Keep ur government handz OFF(!) muh MediCare!!

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I don't think I could design a more Hard-R ridiculous system if I was being waterboarded to yield it

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[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The system here is completely broken, unless you are a C level at a hospital or some major investor/exec level at a drug or medical equipment manufacturer. The system is working super well for them. For the rest of us though, the US system is the most costly in the world both on cost to tax payers, and personal costs. Medical debt is the number one reason for bankruptcy in the US and most of the people who file have medical insurance.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

America is soooooo weird in this regard, I feel for them, I really do :-(

Here I'm the UK our pharmacy (chemists) are highly qualified professionals who know what they're doing (not to suggest they aren't in the US, I just want to temper the mundane thing I'm about to say about them a bit as I'm generalising), but their job for all it's complexities and specialised stuff is this:

They dispense whatever medication is on my prescription.

That's it, that's their job, they don't get further involved. I give them my prescription, they say okay come back in 30 minutes we'll have it ready for you, and then I come back, pay the flat £9.65 fee (no matter what medication it is, it's always £9.65), and I go on my way.

That's it. They don't try to take the place of my doctor and perform their own counter-diagnosis, they don't make random decisions about whether I should have my medication or not based on prejudices etc, their job is just to grab the box of pills or whatever, stick them into a bag with my name on it and hand them to me.

It boggles my mind that over there your pharmacists are often some kinda wild weirdos that think they're able to step in to your doctor's role, or have any say in your medical care, etc. It's wild, and I'm so sorry you have to experience that ridiculousness.

I honestly don't know why your country isn't in uproar over it, considering how prevalent and deep rooted the issue seems to be. If our pharmacists all suddenly started behaving that way we'd go mental, the nationwide scandal would be huge 😅

🫂 Stay safe out there and always stand up for yourself, you're important!

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Its super annoying to me when pharmacists get uppity. Its like, is there a vending machine with a little less attitude I can interface with in the alternative?!

Don't get me wrong, I generally get along with pharms famously cuz they know I know what I'm talking about and I gently but assertively refuse to play any games. Its like, I came here for x,y,z and I expect to obtain such and I'd like to know a,b,c aha. I just generally have little patience for gatekeeper and folks who attempt to impede me from doing what I need to do.

Its like, you gotta pay for that shit, I'm nobody's plaything for free, even then, I was always the shittiest of doormats 👹

[-] Awesomematter@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I used a small old school pharmacy (it’s quite obviously only used for meds and inflating balloons cause all the items on the shelves were covered in a layer of dust) but they were meaner than the corporate locations and told me I couldn’t keep switching btwn pharmacies cause it “looked suspicious” despite that literally being the recommendations since there was a stimulant shortage in the entire nation. It’s all situation specific and most of the time I feel degraded😞

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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago

I currently use a Walgreens that has been quite good to me. I tried switching to a local independent pharmacy, but they said they couldn't fill my Adderall prescription because they were only getting enough for their current patients. Seems like a sign they probably have great service if you can become a customer.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So they kinda made the decision for you. And if the Walgreens is good to you, regardless of it being a big chain, that's awesome. I'm not saying "don't be a customer at a big chain" or "no Costco pharmacy", I'm saying that if a pharmacy treats you poorly and makes you do their job/worry about anything, find a better pharmacy who understands+appreciates the value of your perpetual monthly business.

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

So, CVS in California used to do most of that, especially filling the Rx without being asked and then telling us it was ready. But, after some reaction to the opiate crisis I can't find any place that does that. If you're Rx is on a schedule, no matter if it makes sense or how long you've been taking it abuse-free, they absolutely may refuse to help you whenever some miscommunication happens or you need it early because you're traveling or whatever.

I think the pharmacy attached to medical center is a good idea, but it was my doctor's office (the prescriber) who told me they "don't get involved with scheduled drugs" when Costco needed the prescription resent.

[-] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I gave up the treatment because the meds were never available even tho my life was so much better with them. I searched every pharmacy in my city, no one keeps methylphendate tabs on them. Now I'm once again going bareback through life.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You being serious right now, like freaking methylphenidate is too much to ask? WTF, where the heck do you live that is that incompetent?!

Imma need you to elaborate on how thats possible?

[-] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

India, Dehradun, i've searched every damn pharmacy in here, nothing. Asked my therapist, she shrugged like there's just one brand available and the one store that sells it most times don't have it. So I had to wait weeks to get it. And then my therapist would have to restart the whole thing from 5 mg cuz apparently you can't continue using the 20 mg straight up idk. Did this for months and had to give up. Even looked em up in the online pharmacies. Can't say I didn't try.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wow, that sucks. I'd be screwed without my Dexedrine, yikes. Every time I go off it things slowly start going to shit

[-] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah it's like, someone took my crutches. Once you experience "normal", going back is so terrible.

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