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Panera, formerly Panera Bread.

This is THE SECOND person who died from drinking this.

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[-] Dio@lemy.lol 26 points 2 years ago

Well damn. Wish I could try it, especially before they inevitably discontinue if these cases are actually because of it. Siiigh.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

From what I’ve heard, they are not very good. But what do I know, apparently they’re to die for.

[-] aalvare2@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Take my upvote and get the fuck outta here

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Add vodka and create the ultimate beverage

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

Add a liter of vodka and create the ultimate beverage

Now we're rocking

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Are people just forgetting 4 Loko existed (in its original form, I mean)? I've never been so drunk so quickly. I drank a few of them one time without realizing how much alcohol was in one of them. They apparently ranked from a few percent ABV all the way up to 14. I woke up in a pool of alcoholic Strawberry Lemonade vomit.

[-] RustedSwitch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Budweiser had a caffeinated beer in 2004!

[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

dont let your dreams be dreams

[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 4 points 2 years ago

They're pretty good, but I'd never drink more than a small. My caffeine tolerance is terrible though (can barely handle a monster).

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Dump some red bulls into a lemonade and I bet you'll get there.

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[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

I heard on the evening news (and I'm only reporting what they said) that the guy had high blood pressure already - not the kind of person who should be chugging "charged" anything anyway. Those energy drinks are not good for your heart, but I do get why people use them. I just think they're not for everyone.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

'Not for everyone' generally means some people just don't like that thing, not that it causes fatalities.

[-] Entropywins@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

If you are at risk for certain activities or drugs, like caffeine, you are part of the not for everyone demographic...

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

IDK, I think it's fair to say peanuts aren't for everyone, and they can cause death if you're seriously allergic to them. Most people are fine having them, but many don't like them and some have negative reactions to them.

If you know your body would have issues with it, don't have it, but it's fine for the general public.

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

That's true enough. There were a mere 34 deaths from energy drink fatalities according to the Center for Science in the Public Interest this year so - it doesn't even compare to gun deaths or auto accidents. I guess that can be considered pretty safe.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago

Honestly that makes this Panera stuff seem worse if its caused two deaths out of a low number, unless their lemonade is a bigger share of the energy drinks market than I'd assume.

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know the stats, but I have been under the impression that energy drinks with extra caffeine are generally regarded as not being all that safe anyway - but I could be wrong. I know that my own doctor has told me to stay away from energy drinks, I assume because of my blood pressure problems and GI problems, but I'm not sure. Most everyone else seems to enjoy them and have no troubles of any kind.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Energy drink is a huge umbrella term that encompasses 16 Oz or larger cans of heavily sweetened liquid, drinks the containe strange stimulants that are way more aggressive than caffeine, workout drinks that have no caffeine, drinks with caffeine and a ton of tangential stuff in it and vitamins, to drinks that have less caffeine then a cup of coffee.

A Venti Starbucks has 5x more caffeine than an 8oz redbull and vastly more sugar, depending on your preferences. A like comparison has 20oz Starbucks at >400mg caffeine and avg of 300 calories (0-600 range, most people choose 400+ options). 20oz of redbull is 171 MG caffeine and 258 calories.

Energy drinks are just easy and more predictable than coffee.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Literally everyone has high blood pressure as of the most recent CDC update which calls anything above 120/70 hypertension.

[-] reflex@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Overcharging kills more than batteries.

[-] pastaPersona@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

This seems like something that could’ve been avoided with clearer labeling, IE “Contains 300 mg of caffeine avoid if you have a health condition” or similar.

[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 12 points 2 years ago

We put up signs literally everywhere after the first incident (front door, coffee bar, drive-thru, drive-thru menu, and counter) in like 30 point font that says how much caffeine and that it isn't recommended for (very long scary list of all possible) sensitive groups... The first incident was avoidable, but this time is on them...

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Why is it even on the menu?

[-] DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Alcohol has warning labels on it, why are bars allowed to exist?

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[-] Drusas@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

They already share that information.

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Caffeine is so addicting and so bad for the heart. Isn't it great? I have to have it throughout the day, because I'm so used to it that without it, I get pounding headaches. Usually I only drink about 1/2 cup of coffee a day, but I do drink diet coke throughout the day and eat chocolate all the time. I find if I try to go without it, the headaches are so intense as to be debilitating.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe you should wean yourself off then. I would hate to feel like a slave to a substance. Perhaps start with cutting out the soda, that's probably what's causing the physical dependence.

I personally rarely have caffeine. I sleep pretty well, so I'm not that tired in the morning (I don't even use an alarm). I think people use caffeine to cover up bad habits, and that often feeds back on itself and leads to dependence.

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

You're right I'm sure. I should wean myself off. I started drinking coffee (very weak with milk) when I was about eight and I'm 65 now - so, maybe too late to quit?

And I don't really drink that much soda, I have a half glass of diet coke (and some water) after lunch and then water until dinner time, then another half glass of diet coke until I switch back to water again around 8:00pm.

If I were a drinker, like everyone else in my family, I'd probably forgo the soda and just have bourbon - I love that stuff, but my body can't process alcohol so I just always went the diet Coke route.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

maybe too late to quit?

My understanding is that addiction to caffeine is pretty quick to break, and withdrawals usually last no more than a day. It's not like smoking or alcohol where there's strong physical dependence.

And it's interesting that you're getting such those symptoms with only a half a cup of coffee and a half glass of coke periodically. That doesn't sound like a ton of caffeine, and my understanding is that there are only concerns with >100mg or so of caffeine (obviously varies per person). Coffee is something like 60-80mg per 8oz, and soda is something like 20mg, so depending on what "half a cup" means for you, you're at or below 100mg.

So I wonder if there's something else going on that you should consult a doctor about. Skipping caffeine for a day or two should be enough, so maybe give that a shot.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I guess they must be to die for

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