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[-] thantik@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I feel like there's a lot of these carbon-sequestration companies that are selling absolute poppycock and getting billions in funding, and very little actual oversight. They're doing this song and dance with "carbon credits", and eventually someone's going to peek behind the curtain and blow their cover.

I haven't seen one carbon-sequestration entity yet, besides those that are focused around planting trees, that have actually shown any real results other than vague handwavey bullshit. Like the ones saying they're capturing it out of the air and pumping it underground -- awfully convenient that nobody can fucking verify that it's actually happening eh?

It is a difference between scammers with certificate trading bullshit or science guys who try to make a business case of what science got us.

In carbfix its the latter.

Compared to others which are selling co2 certificates for forests which do not exist.

[-] thantik@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So what's carbfix's business model? How do they make money doing this? Can YOU, as an individual, verify what their claims are?

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Not that I back this in any way but just what I've read: https://www.carbfix.com/proven

[-] Ater@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

70,000 tons "to date" is a heck of a lot less than 37 billion tons annually. It would take over 500,000 identical facilities with no environmental impact to reach net zero.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, now we're tolkien.

[-] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago

lol fuck what a company thinks, what can they prove

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago
[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago
[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago

A reasonably well-known climate scientist.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

Okay...

Will be interesting to see peer reviews of their work.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Don't know about the specifics in the OP but I believe it's a similar process to this:

https://www.carbfix.com/proven

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's a thing in Iceland that binds CO2 underground.

It's pretty cool: https://www.carbfix.com/

Here's the science behind it https://www.carbfix.com/scientific-papers

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/395af5db-c2fb-43c0-8af1-2db7af10f37a.png

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Most locations aren't like that; they're injecting into oil and gas deposits with the risk of subsequent leakage

Enhanced rock weathering is very cool if it can be made to work at scale. Most examples have issues with needing a lot of energy to mine and pulverize rocks

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago

They are looking at using Tailings storage facilities in mining for this reason

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with the risk of subsequent leakage

That risk is like telling:" humanity will go down due to a eruption of a super vulcano"

But i agree carbfix is no solution for global scales.

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