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[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

When was the era of major health reform?

[-] Jah348@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

My thoughts exactly. Did I miss the start?

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Do you remember when insurance companies could jack up your premiums if you got sick, or even drop your coverage in the middle of treatment? Or when they could surprise you with over $15K a year for individual out of pocket costs?

That was 2009. It was a big problem. They can't do those things any more.

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 16 points 11 months ago

The Affordable Healthcare Act, or Obamacare, did this.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Affordable Care Act also dictates that insurers charge men and women the same premium costs. As a young dude, I remember paying $23/paycheck for health insurance while a young woman my same age at the same company for the same coverage under the same plan was paying $147/paycheck. I had no idea that there was a difference in premium costs, nor how big that disparity is.

Yes I pay more for health insurance now, but I'm totally fine with that. We can't burden 50% of the population that are women with absurdly higher healthcare costs in an equitable society simply because they are women.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

What part of our society is equitable tho?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well, as of 2009, payment for health insurance premiums with both genders.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Why, debt of course.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The point is that we should strive to have an equitable society.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That was, of course, 14 years ago.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The ACA was passed 14 years ago. But it took a while to completely come into effect, and it was subsequently modified. The last major change was the repeal of the individual mandate which took effect in 2019.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Damn, the Republicans didn't even get to introduce their hallmark "The Poors Should Fuck Off and Die" bill. They only need a couple more weeks guys.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago

Insurance

The one purpose built industry that not only improves exponentially with but can only function by being at scale. That.is.it's.whole.reason.to.exist.

Every argument against M4A is a known lie consciously being said to our faces. It's parasites squirming in where they don't belong, to steal whatever value they can connive, instead of producing anything of value and actually contributing to society

Just like landlords, it's inherited generational bloatware. Like herpes, I think...um, kinda?? ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Landlords = herpes.

I'm rolling with it. I don't need any clarification on that.

[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I've been working to change the word "Landlord" to "Landleech" in my lexicon for the last year or so. I'm doing pretty good at it too. Even added it to the dictionary for my keyboard. Now I just need to figure out how to define an autocorrect for it.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago

— at least for now.

At some point we'll face the fact that we can save another 1/3 of health care costs by using a Medicare for all (fuck the insurance companies) and making the health industry government owned (yikes socialized medicine). But that will be a long time from now.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lump ALL insurance together, make it government run, or legislate it non-profit, with pay rates the same, and tiered the same as social workers.

We need to shame these companies that profiteer off of their neighbors. It's state sanctioned looting of someone's estate while they're down. If they want to profit, let them offer profit packages in other countries, we dont need anymore ambulance chasing opportunists. Beaurocrats...shudders

[-] triptrapper@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

"Everybody who supports single-payer healthcare says, ‘Look at all this money we would be saving from insurance and paperwork.’ That represents 1 million, 2 million, 3 million jobs of people who are working at Blue Cross Blue Shield or Kaiser or other places. What are we doing with them? Where are we employing them?” - Obama, 2006

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/mr-obama-goes-washington/

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Congratulations to republicans and centrist democrats for their latest victory over sick people.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

I've given up hope of any meaningful reform on meaningful issues, so this article isn't that disheartening. However, I hate it when Democrats use phrases like this:

Americans would have access to affordable health coverage

I don't want affordable coverage. I want affordable care. The concept of health insurance as a thing I need to buy should not exist.

[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

For me, for-profit medical care ranks up there with cock/dog fighting and taking young minors as sex slaves as the most inhumane things possible. It is profiting off the suffering of human beings. Even if it was slightly more egalitarian and was profiting off the healing of human beings, it would only be marginally better.

[-] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Well, only if we let it be.

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