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We recently received a message from a concerned Rammy user regarding their instance not having an active admin team.

We have made attempts to contact the Rammy admins, which other instance admins have tried as well, to determine their current status. Due to their admins being absent and their unmoderated content growing in numbers, we will defederate from Rammy. If and when this situation changes, we will be happy to reevaluate our approach. It should be noted that any instances that have abandoned admin teams will be defederated.

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[-] tallwookie@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago

how does that work - I mean, who's paying the bills for the instance if it's unmoderated? weird

[-] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 29 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's not actually abandoned. Just providing plausible deniability that way.

[-] antik@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It's running an older version of Lemmy, so it's not being updated.

[-] giant_smeeg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

How much bandwidth/resource do you need? If you had a 4core nas, running unraid and a gigabit connection for example

Could you set this up and nearly forget about it?

[-] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 22 points 1 year ago

Rammy is running 0.18.0 which still has the bloated postgres database issue, so storage should be ramping up real fast. It is still technically possible to forget about it, don't get me wrong. I was merely pointing out it is not the only possibility.

[-] giant_smeeg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Sorry I wasn't questioning you, was just genuinely curious and it got me thinking.

Could somebody set an instance up on a nes or home server, forget about it and it becomes completely rogue? At what point would any instance defederate if they never updated too?

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Could somebody set an instance up on a nes

I think that in order to run Lemmy you'd need at least a PlayStation.

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[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It's not necessarily super expensive for someone who wants to host an instance, whether it's at home or via server providers. Hosting a GOOD and high-traffic instance might cost more but still any nerd with disposable income can do it if they want.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago

that instance is full to the brim of crazies who have lost all grip on reality. they feel nothing but hate

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[-] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago

It got really bad just over the past two days. I'm not sure if it's a raid from some right wing troll farm, or what it is. Defederation makes things easy though

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[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the update, seems like a reasonable approach

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Unfortunate but very much necessary to stop the spread of their hatred. This is why it's important to have a team of admins, so that it's less likely that the person running the server doesn't just disappear one day and they can continue maintaining it even if the main person isn't there. Maybe if you're an individual instance you can't afford to hire a team of people, but you could get a group of friends together and have all of you work together to run it, think of it like a group passion project it's important to make sure that something like this doesn't end up abandoned otherwise it can cause problems for others if people start abusing it.

I know a lot of people are in doubt about how bad it is, but I went there and I looked at it and it's honestly terrible worse than the Donald on Reddit (if anyone can remember that) we don't want to rehost that kind of stuff on this server, we don't want to be associated with those kinds of people, it's not worth it. They can still have their free speech on their platform, just not on our server and we don't have to put up with it.

[-] antik@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Yes they can keep their hate on their own instances but they are not welcome in our house. Keep reporting these extremists wether they are right of left wing - because it's a never-ending fight.

[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 34 points 1 year ago

It’s interesting that they have their own instance, but can’t stand the fact that they got defederated, and have to keep finding ways to get that sweet attention they crave.

[-] antik@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

That's why it is important that everyone keeps reporting these things.

[-] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Question here. If a user suscribed to world wants to keep seing content from that instance, cant he just suscribe to some subs over there? I'm still trying to figure that part out. I'm on ml but can see some content from world.

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

No, you will not see content from Rammy on LW. If you want to interact with both you'll need to have an account on an instance that federates both. I'm sure there are some out there, and if not starting your own is an option.

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[-] Album@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

As a user of lemmy.ml you don't have to worry about what Lemmy.world defederates from. You'll still see Lemmy.World content and lemmy.ml will pull directly from other instances on its own

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

That's not what they asked though.

The question wasn't that self-centered, it was asking if a user from an instance that defederated from another instance could still access content from the defederated instance through a direct manual subscription.

[-] amenotef@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Fair enough!

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Never even heard of it, but good looking out!

[-] ougi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
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