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[-] wombat@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago

all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.

[-] comradeRichard@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

You're GD right đź–¤

[-] davel@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 11 months ago

Yemen's PM: Naval Blockade on Israel Stems from Genuine Will of Yemen in Solidarity with Palestine

[Ansar Allah’s Prime Minister] Bin Habtoor clarified that this naval blockade will persist until Gaza's siege is lifted and essential supplies like food and medicine reach the Palestinian population.

[-] davel@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 11 months ago

I haven’t been able to find Ansar Allah’s statement (in English or otherwise). If I understand correctly, Almasirah Media Network is their main outlet, and their reporting on this is no more detailed as yet: Armed Forces Announce Restriction on Ships Bound for Zionist Entity

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 30 points 11 months ago

-- Who dis?

-- Houthis.

-- You first!

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

Ohhhh fuck yeah

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago

In full seriousness, beyond posturing and making an ideological statement, how will the Houthi Movement enforce this blockade in any way? They have no navy, no modern anti-ship missiles, no naval Air Force, or any meaningful way to affect shipping in the Red Sea without getting wiped off the face of the Earth by UN anti-piracy naval and air forces in stationed in Djibouti.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 11 months ago

They've already been using drones to harass Israeli affiliated ships and even seized one. They don't have to be able to completely stop shipping, just to make it riskier and more expensive to do. That puts direct economic pressure on Israel. There's a good article talking about this in more detail here https://new.thecradle.co/articles-id/14235

[-] JucheStalin@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 11 months ago
[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

But how do they differentiate shipping as to what is Israeli affiliated or not?

[-] davel@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There are publicly available databases on ships with pretty detailed information, including their travels. For a fee there are services that provide cargo information as well.

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[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

I think the a major component of the blockade is that one they begin to capture or burn ships, the insurance rate goes way up. Once the ships become even slightly more costly the margins go down. Once it is even possibly unprofitable to use the straight, they will have effectively created a blockade.

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[-] neeshie@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 11 months ago

They launched an anti ship missile a few hours ago so clearly they've got something

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

It missed the US ship they were aiming at by 10 km…

[-] neeshie@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

I was talking about the norwegian tanker they hit yesterday

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

My mistake, there have been a few missile attacks.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 11 months ago

Bab el Mandab is a very narrow strait and the Houthis have the ability to strike anywhere in the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

With what? They have no naval military craft at all, zero. The most they have is drones, though they have been noted to be useful only with harassment engagements.

Also they absolutely do not have free reign over the Arabian and Red seas. That is one of the most high defended areas in the world, with anti piracy operations from UN nations constantly patrolling, destroying, and capturing pirates and smugglers. The Chinese, Americans, Russians, French, and British all have their own naval base and airfield in Djibouti for the express purpose of supporting those operations. Plus air and naval assets from dozens of UN countries.

Bab el Mandab??? You’re kidding right? I’m sure trying to capture or destroy a ship 25 meters away from the combined naval and air assets of nearly 45 countries is going to go well.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 11 months ago

As Harun Al-Rashid once said to Niqpur: the answer is what you will see not hear.

Just sit down and watch. Not the first time the Yemenis defeated an empire

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

That's just an intricate way of saying, "I have no clue, but trust me".

We can only hope, but I am not to optimistic about their chances at all.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You are underestimating the Yemenis. It is the Afghanistan of the Arab world. If the US gets involved there, it will make Iraq seem like a cake walk.

Just consider what they did with one tweet: https://twitter.com/army21ye/status/1728421437570998366

Zim (NYSE: ZIM), whose stock hit a new all-time low Monday, is the most visible of the Israeli shipping companies and the most closely connected with the government. The government of Israel has a “golden share” or “special state share” in the company that ensures the government’s access to Zim’s fleet “in a time of emergency or for national security purposes.”

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/zim-container-ship-diverts-as-threat-to-israel-linked-vessels-mounts

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

The big question is what does Israel do during the hostile takeover of all its major companies when Palestinians use the windfall from hedging against the Israeli economy to buy controlling interests in Israeli companies whose shares plummet in value because Palestine's allies are using topiary to keep that hedge in the shape of a giant keffiyeh?

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Still holding the same view now?

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 8 months ago

What was my view? That I can't tell the future? I was just wary of almost looking like a Ukraine lib and making insane claims about what Ansar Allah could accomplish.

I've been very happy and surprised with the progress that Ansar Allah have made though! I'm a lot more optimistic about their long-term prospects now! It's still very early though, but at least their efforts are making strides!

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Cheers comrade. May you always be pleasantly surprised

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I look forward to that! Each blow goes a long way!

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 11 months ago

I just checked the bases on Google Maps. Wild how they aren't blurred lol. I could even count US airplanes there from my lazy couch.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s a bit silly because you’ll check out the area surrounding the capital, and it’s just normal farmland, rural areas, and minor infrastructure, then out of nowhere…

CHINESE PEOPLE’S LIBERATION ARMY.

Or a random airport in the middle of the desert that seems inconspicuous enough… then you realize the terminals are lined up with Reaper drones.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nothing beats scrolling through the same farmland to suddenly seeing PIZZAHUT SUBWAY PLANET SMOOTHIE and you realize you're in a US Air Base.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don’t forget the two separate bars. And the “small laundry”, and literal shopping mall so that airmen can go shopping after some bombing runs.

The US is a joke.

Also wow, we were talking about two different airports lmao. I think I stumbled across the US drone base further inland. The one by the coast is the major base.

Also love how they leave all those Ospreys out baking in the African sun, then get surprised when they break down.

It is a bit surreal though to look at the pier and see a bunch of US Navy, PLAN, and Russian navy ships all moored next to each other or tied to one another.

[-] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 11 months ago

they have helicopters, drones, small ships, antiship missiles... They will be fine.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

You’re being very liberal with your definition of “helicopters and small ships”, those are small civilian craft. Not Mi24’s and corvettes.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yet it was enough to capture Galaxy Leader

Watch this Yemeni celebrating the capture of Galaxy Leader: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0NQr46M4H8/

Note: Galaxy is pronounced Jalaxy in Arabic

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

That was a pretty impressive operation, though again they had the element of surprise because no one expected the movement to begin raiding ships.

Plus overpowering 25 crew members who all have no combat experience or any weapons is a bit lopsided.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Who will stop them?

The Saudis and Emiratis who spent 6 years losing to them, or Israel that can't defeat Hamas or Hezbollah, or the US who is running out of weapons? The Yemenis want to bait the US-Israel into a losing war with them.

"Israel ready to act against Houthi rebels if international community fails to, national security adviser says" https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/09/middleeast/israel-houthi-yemen-warning-intl-hnk/index.html

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The UN defensive force that I referred to earlier. That's the entire point of that task force... to protect shipping in the Red and Arabian Sea, and the Indian Ocean. They don't need to exterminate the Houthi Movement, they will just more closely keep an eye on shipping as it passes through the strait.

That's already what's been happening, as there have already been news stories of US, French, and Chinese ships downing missiles being fired from Yemen, and air patrols have been increased.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Okay, but what for-profit shipping company would take the risk? How much damage do you think the Yemenis can do to all the world's navies gathered? None at all? Maybe check with USS Cole.

I think the best response here, is to just ask you to watch it play out. You may be surprised.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

Yemen has already been able to outright capture two and strike two so far. This isn't a hypothetical, "what will Yemen do", it's what they're already doing.

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[-] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I stopped posting on lemmygrad because every other week I have to post the same comment... "Houthi" is a racist term. Please do better.

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/2741683

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

I'm Arab and supportive, and sometimes use it. The term isn't racist, there's no racial significance to it. They do prefer the term Ansar Allah and I think we should use it. While some use the term Houthis to delegitimize them, I have seen supporters use the term as well, it is named after their leaders, Hussein and Abdul-Malik al-Houthi.

I want to stress that we should use the official name, or simply refer to them as the government of Yemen, but it is wrong to assume that the term is purely pejorative specially when used here.

[-] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Salaam 🫡

They've emphasized for many years now that they don't use this term but it's so normalized that even some friends use it too which is sad. Everyone disrespects the Yemenis. Lots of Muslims and Arabs use the term and we shouldn't be using it either. Maybe racist isn't the right word. I dont know. Seems racist that they don't get respected enough to even be allowed to name themselves.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

I just used the title from the article, and was not aware of this. Now I know.

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