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[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 50 points 11 months ago

When will they finally push the beds together for good?

It’s ok guys, you don’t have to hide.

[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Aren't they canonically married?

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 months ago

Not canonically. I think one of the writers is gay but said he never intended them to be a couple. If that's true is for no one to know for sure and your head canon is for no one to judge

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No idea. I haven’t watched Sesame Street since the early 90s, but it makes a lot of sense from what I remember about them.

Also it’s fun to say they are to piss off the people who care so much about shit that doesn’t matter.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I mean, it makes sense today to have roommates share a room with these house prices!

[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Lore accurate

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Aren't they canonically gay now?

Edit: idgaf if they're actually gay I just remember hearing a lot of people talk about that and I'm tryna figure out if it was just homophobic bullshit

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 11 months ago

They were always intended to be gay, and were based off a real life gay couple. "Really gay" was always a nudge nudge deal rather than openly admitted fact.

[-] flicker@kbin.social 56 points 11 months ago

From Wikipedia:

Frank Oz, who previously performed as Bert, stated Bert and Ernie were not gay, saying,

"They're not, of course, a gay couple. But why that question? Does it really matter? Why the need to define people as only gay? There's much more to a human being than just straightness or gayness."[17][18]

Sesame Street went on to clarify further, stating:

"No, Bert and Ernie aren't gay - they're 'best friends'".[19]

The Gaystar News reported that fans reacted negatively to this assertion. Frank Oz later tweeted in September 2018

A last thought: If Jim and I had created Bert and Ernie as gay characters they would be inauthentic, coming from two straight men. However, I have now learned that many view them as representative of a loving gay relationship. And that's pretty wonderful. Thanks for helping me understand.[20][21]

So, I would say they weren't intended that way from the start but only because the writers didn't think to do so. Frank Oz is a great reference for these things, and if he says "I love how you see them as representation" then that's good enough for me.

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[-] flicker@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

I know! How enlightened and humble that answer was!

[-] MajesticSloth@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Agreed, thanks for sharing it.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

No they weren’t.

They were created in the 60’s, the writer who head-cannoned they were gay wrote for them in the 80s.

Officially and historically they are not gay.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

And it's okay for them to be hetro life-mates, or bffs, or whatever. It's okay for people to head cannon them as gay if they like, but all they were ever intended to represent was a kind and loving friendship between two dudes who were fundamentally different. By the same token, love, kindness, and actually being friends with your partner is important even in a romantic relationship. Bert and Ernie are good role models for any relationship really, as they were meant to be.

[-] DroneRights@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago
[-] can@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

omg they were roommates

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Now we know why Bert has 10,000 fewer followers.

[-] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

"I wish you wouldn't drink so much, Bert"

[-] BennyInc@feddit.de 13 points 11 months ago

So Ernie got roommatezoned?

[-] verdare@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago

Given the connotations of the word “roommate,” I’d say it’s still sadder that Bert got friendzoned.

[-] Todesschnitzel@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Isn't Bert the kind of guy who says he doesn't have friends and hates Ernie even though he secretly likes him?

[-] eksb@programming.dev 21 points 11 months ago

Bert is clearly the kind of guy who is pretty sure that Ernie is his friend, but is afraid to say it publicly on the 0.01% chance that Ernie says "we're not friends, just roommates", which would emotionally devastate Bert.

[-] Todesschnitzel@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

I agree by 100.000%

[-] webjukebox@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That was me with my ex girlfriend.

[-] Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

"Confirmed Bachelors"

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago

Ernie is Bert's friend, and Bert can't take that away from him.

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