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Foldable smartphones have reached their fifth major generation, as heralded by Samsung’s Galaxy Z Flip 5 and Fold 5...

For me it's definitely the durability concerns. I've valued my phone's water and dust resistance since getting an ip67 phone years and years ago. My brother had a flip and a grain of sand in his pocket got under the display; when he closed the phone the display died. And they expect me to pay more for the privilege.

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[-] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago

It's a gimmick that makes phones less reliable and doesn't add value to the experience.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

Why the fuck would I want mechanical stress?

[-] harmonea@kbin.social 76 points 1 year ago

The phrase "what's stopping you" implies we're all interested, but hesitant.

This is a really, really bad assumption.

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[-] RisingGrace@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

Price. It's just too high to consider for me right now when I can get phones with the same computing power for half the cost

[-] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 50 points 1 year ago

Uhh the price tag? I just bought a new phone after 6 years of honoured service from my old one, payed the new one a whopping 300€ and it already felt like a rip off. Ain't no way I'm paying four digits for a phone.

[-] Rhodin@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago

My current phone still works.

[-] ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Pretty much this. And they are still too expensive.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t see the point of it. It might be smaller in height when folded, but it’s twice as thick. That doesn’t make it any easier to pocket.

It also seems unnecessarily over complicated. The folding screen technology also doesn’t seem mature (high crease failure). I would think at least one or two phone companies would design them so they just met at a bezel-less seam rather than trying to actually fold an oled/lcd screen.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Same with me. I just don't see the point. I can't think of a situation where I need my screen to regularly get bigger or smaller. It might be helpful once in a while, but not enough to get a phone that does that.

[-] The_Fundertaker@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

They're prohibitively expensive, the aspect ratio is dumb, and the fold/crease is distracting as hell.

It reminds me of back in the '00s when people were getting the sidekick or whatever that "T" shaped phone was that Tony Stark had in Ironman.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Price, durability, use case...

There's nothing about them that makes them worth sacrificing the first two above.

[-] peter@feddit.uk 22 points 1 year ago

The price, the line down the middle, the hinge. Generally just not requiring any more screen space

[-] meta_synth@yiffit.net 22 points 1 year ago

-Not durable (If you can damage the screen with your fingernail it's not durable enough. Period.) -No headphone jack

  • No expandable storage
  • No removae battery
  • Lack of support for folding screens in apps
  • Extremely high prices
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[-] Poob@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago
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[-] Ogygus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cost

durability

Size

difficult to repair (if not impossible)

lack of sdcard (on such a large body)

No open source ROMS

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[-] lunchymunchy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

price and reliability

[-] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I mean they cost at least a grand.

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[-] prey169@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

They don't have the actual answer in their poll for me which is, you pay 1800 for the z fold but get the camera of the s23 basic model. Which is wild.

Give me the ultra cameras and I'll buy it

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[-] seacocker@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I don't pay more than £400 for a phone. So that.

[-] waterbogan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
  1. I'll break it

  2. I dont need what a foldable offers

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago

I don't want one. It's a cool technological feat, but like a transparent monitor or flexible keyboard, it just doesn't make sense for my needs.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 13 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I just don't find them very appealing, one of my coworkers has one and having the thing unfold into a shape more like a small tablet just looks like it'd make it harder to use one handed, and having a weird seam in the middle looks distracting. They look kinda cool and novel because I'm not used to seeing screens fold like that, but I don't see myself actually preferring one once the novelty ran out.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I've avoided the like the plague for all the obvious reasons, my mum has been using one for a few years now and ran into just about all of those reasons.

Permanant mid fold in screen.

Durability lasts far fewer actions than what was in the specs and warranty.

Refurbishing only introduced new issues and failed to resolve old issues.

[-] uzay@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago
  1. My current phone works fine
  2. I can't run CalyxOS or GrapheneOS on it
  3. They are way too expensive
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[-] Zeb@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

My current phone still works, too expensive, durability concerns (my current phone would not be working were it a foldable), center crease, looks like a pain to repair (right to repair hell yeah!), and most importantly...

...why? What do I gain by going with a foldable? My current phone doesn't need to fold to fit in my pocket, and it doesn't have so many compromises.

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[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

I see them as every way inferior to normal phones. I don't get why they're popular.

[-] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Too fragile. Too expensive.

[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It adds nothing of value. It's just a neat gimmick. I don't want a crease in my screen, I don't want to double the width of my phone in my pocket, and I have no valid use cases for it.

[-] Patius@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I got one, but got rid of it after the screen cover plastic became rigid and creaky...twice. Worse, Samsung said they'd cover it once under warranty, and that after their ubreak ifix people were telling me it'd cost $200 to fix and I had to explain I had a protection plan to the braindead tech ten times.

Not worth it until they solve durability issues.

[-] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The main thing stopping me is that I don’t use Android phones right now. But even if I did, I personally find the whole foldable phone thing to be a bit gimmicky. I’d want to see it have staying power over some years before I’d even consider getting one.

[-] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

As long as there's a noticable crease in the screen, I'm out. They also need to last more than two years.

[-] Wussy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I'll fold when the price comes down.

[-] herrwoland@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Stresses me out each time I open and close my phone thinking the life span of the display is shortened by 1

[-] godless@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I simply don't like them. There's zero use case where I would consider a foldable phone superior, or even equivalent to a regular one.

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[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not paying a thousand plus dollars for a phone. I go through a phone every year and a half to two years. I don't want to spend $1,000 a year for a phone.

I don't want to have a never-ending phone payment. I buy inexpensive but good quality phones like Motorola's or second-hand pixels and I'm good.

I spend 160 something dollars a year on average on phones, and use the least expensive prepaid plans out there.

And this is not because I am poor, there's room in the budget for me to have the fancy iPhone and you know the top of the line plan or whatever, I just got better things to spend my money on than a fucking phone.

If a company comes out with a folding phone that doesn't have a lot of bloatware on it and is in the $200 range then the next time I buy a new phone I would consider it.

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[-] dewritoninja@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

Im not gonna buy a phone that's worth several months of salary in my country only to get mugged the moment I pull it out

[-] CountChonkula@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I'm still not sold on the durability and the last thing I want is the screen to become a wear item. Even with most of them pretty much all switching from plastic to ultra thin glass, bending glass like that is asking for it to eventually break and replacement internal screens aren't cheap.

Secondly, a lot of foldables sacrifice battery capacity as the Flip 5 has a 3700 MAh battery and the Fold 5 has a 4400 MAh and powering a 2nd, larger screen is going to consume more battery. A normal smartphone you can typically find with at least 5000 MAh batteries in them.

The tech is cool and all, but it just seems more like an engineering flex rather than something that's practical.

[-] owsei@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
  • Price
  • Durability
  • my feelings towards UI designers that now have to think "what if the screen just halved in size out of nowhere?"
[-] peyotecosmico@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

I want my phone to last more than 2 years

[-] Moghul@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

It all comes down to the gimmick not being worth an additional thousand euros to the price of my phone.

I don't think durability would be a problem for me as I already baby my glass back device and I haven't been using screen protectors for years with no problem. The downgrade in cameras isn't that big of a deal for me as most pictures I take are macro, and as it turns out phones nowadays are horrendous dogshit at it anyway.

I think I'd enjoy the gimmick, I used to own a flip phone as a teenager, it's just not worth a thousand euros extra. I'd probably add another 150 or 200 euros to my pixel to buy a folding phone.

[-] Xariphon@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Too expensive.

[-] senzalamenino@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

The fact the most of them are made by Samsung and I can’t stand the amount of bloatware Samsung put on their devices.

[-] aluminium@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Durability and the fact you still have to make significant cuts to battery life and cameras.

[-] Sim@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 year ago

For me, they're too fat when folded and too big when open. I don't like the feeling of the crease, and the technology needs time to prove how reliable it'll be in the real world.

[-] ___f____g___@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Huh... the folding. I'm already mad that I can't get a solid 5 years out of a $1200 phone, there's no way I'm shelling out for a first wave foldy.

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[-] imperator3733@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They're way too expensive and they're still early-generation devices. Plus, why would I trust Google to continue with the product line seeing as how they keep killing viable products and services?

If they get to the Pixel Fold 4 or 5 and the price is down to the $500-600 range, then it'd be a very serious contender for me. (Assuming the insane fragility is resolved)

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