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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago

long-range one-way attack drones

So, modern V-1 buzz bombers. Even the launch ramp sled thing in the article looks like a similar concept. Everything old is new again!

[-] ShadowRam@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago

I hate this stupid word 'drone'

Cruise missiles have all the same navigation and course correction tech in it.

These are the same thing with a propeller instead of a rocket and less payload.

[-] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

I mean, there is a difference. You even pointed it out. With a rocket you go point A to point B. That is it. With a prop, you can fly around for as long as your fuel supply lasts. Which is what makes it a drone.

[-] ShadowRam@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

These only go from point A to to point B.

rockets can fly around for as long as their fuel supply lasts.

[-] Pipoca@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

These seem like they can circle for rather longer than a rocket could.

There's a bit of a difference, tactically, between a rocket with 2 min of fuel vs a prop plane with 5 hours of fuel.

[-] mercano@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

A Tomahawk cruise missile only uses a rocket motor to take off from a ship or submarine. After launch, it unfolds its wings and uses a jet engine to fly to its target.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"Added unfolding wings for effect of cool."

Seriously though, Rocket and jet engine is heavy. I know that from KSP.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

What's the difference between a rocket motor and a jet engine?

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Cruise missiles are usually self-guided. Drones are often remotely piloted with some autonomous functions (loitering, station keeping, return to base). No idea what the case is for these new AQ400 units. Given the usage of the term "drone", my guess is that these will be remotely piloted.

[-] ShadowRam@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

They aren't remotely piloted. Way too easy to jam.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Hey, if it works.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Hey, if it works.

[-] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

V1 was a much larger pulsejet (hence the buzz) with a third of the range and ten times the payload of this thing

[-] plasticcheese@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago

Hey, if it works.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

What's the deal with the front wing?

[-] AlotOfReading@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's probably a bunch of reasons for the multi wing design, but the big one is going to be improving lift/carrying capacity without increasing the width.

The most efficient wings for low speeds are glider wings: as long and thin as possible. That makes them inconvenient to pack and folding joints are weak points. The second wing adds lift, but also problems: it's less efficient than a single wing of the combined length would be and the front wing makes the rear wing less efficient. The winglet improves the situation somewhat. Facing downward also improves maneuverability.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Thanks. How does this shape compare with the Iranian Shahed drones?

Is two seperate wings more efficient than a full v shape body?

[-] IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 1 points 11 months ago
[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Yeah seems rather inefficient

[-] IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 3 points 11 months ago

Well wingtips are typically used to increase efficiency, so not sure what you mean.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They increase efficiency if you don't have space for longer wings to park your giant ass airplane in an airport with width limits

Longer wings should be more efficient

this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2023
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