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[-] nakal@kbin.social 192 points 9 months ago

Programs are mathematical proofs. If maths cannot be patented, software can't be, either.

[-] GeniusIsme@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Proofs can be represented as programs, not the other way around. Also, USA allows for algorithm parents, and algorithms are maths. While I agree with you, your reasoning is not correct.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

No, the proof - program correspondence is in both directions.

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[-] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 135 points 9 months ago

You can hear a more detailed explanation on VLC's stance from the man himself (JB Kempf) in the FOSS pod S1E11 episode around 22:10.

Basically:

  • Not that many threats become lawsuits
  • Patent trolling is countered with publicly accessible prior art
  • Having no money is also a good deterrent
[-] maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 5 points 9 months ago

Thanks for the heads up about FOSS pod. Had not heard of it before.

[-] RePsyche@lemmy.world 125 points 9 months ago

This is all well and good, and where’s the Traffic Cone!?!

[-] chellomere@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

Under Santa's hat

[-] CoffeePorter@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Asking the real questions here.

[-] misophist@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The cone is the logo for their most popular project (VLC media player), but this is a message from the organization as a whole, which has the logo you currently see. It is not specifically about that one project.

[-] pistachio@lemmy.ml 54 points 9 months ago

AFAIK european laws only allow to patent "inventions". Software is considered to be a series of "words" in whatever programming language you're using and, like sentences, it's not an invention and can't be patented.

On the other hand, software-assisted inventions can be patented as a whole.

With that said, software can still be considered a "work" protected by copyright laws.

[-] 520@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And that's fine. VLC does their own implementation of codecs so that's not an issue. It's the patents that make it an issue.

[-] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago
[-] ggppjj@lemmy.world 149 points 9 months ago

They don't recognize or value software patents because they aren't recognized by the government where the project is run from.

[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 60 points 9 months ago
[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

Seeing the last law on immigration :/

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 6 points 9 months ago

We got fucked real bad but we are coming for our rulers and will take down their previous work

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago
[-] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 115 points 9 months ago

French laws don't recognize software patents so videolan doesn't either. This is likely a reference to vlc supporting h265 playback without verifying a license. These days most opensource software pretends that the h265 patents and licensing fees don't exist for convenience. I believe libavcodec is distributed with support enabled by default.

Nearly every device with hardware accelerated h265 support has already had the license paid for, so there's not much point in enforcing it. Only large companies like Microsoft and Red Hat bother.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 76 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They bother because they are US based and can be hounded by the patent ~~trolls~~ holders

[-] PupBiru@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

let’s not go too far though… the holders of h264/h265 did put a lot of money and effort into developing the codec: a new actual thing… they are not patent trolls, who by definition produce nothing new other than legal mess

[-] Thrashy@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

On the other hand, Fraunhofer is obnoxious enough about licensing and enforcement that companies like Google invested similar money and effort into developing open-source codecs just to avoid dealing with them.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 73 points 9 months ago

America has the odd idea that software is considered patentable. Since the developers of VLC are French, and software isn't considered patentable in France, they're saying "Va te faire enculer" to people who want to sue them.

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[-] Metz@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago
[-] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fuck that, I like that it's different. I feel a lot of the logos are too similar and boring.

This one has the retro feel to it.

[-] misophist@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

I don't think they were complaining about the design. It invoked a memory of a beloved video game studio from the past that had a similar logo (Westwood Studios) and they are a bit heartbroken. I didn't take their comment as an actual complaint against VideoLAN's logo.

[-] Metz@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago
[-] sus@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

graphic design is my passion

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago

That’s not their stance, that’s French law

[-] menas@lemmy.wtf 3 points 8 months ago

I think it both. Not all software or codec provider aim to apply the EU and French laws. Quite the contrary

[-] Saoirse@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

Utterly based.

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