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‘Massacre’ as Israel steps up Gaza bombardment for Christmas (www.aljazeera.com)

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Israel intensifies Gaza strikes, killing 250 Palestinians in 24 hours

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[-] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yay Israeli government committing genocide on the nightly news hour, live streaming it even. Yay!

Sorry I’ll get fired if I say it’s bad to genocide Palestinian civilians so I won’t say it

Netanyahu is a fucking terrorist

[+] lurch@sh.itjust.works -15 points 11 months ago

Genocide and terrorism are mutually exclusive tho, because with terrorism one wants to influence people by making them react, but with genocide one aims to eradicate them

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

Trying to get people out of where they live is also genocide, and for that terrorism is pretty effective.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, that's "Ethnic cleansing". Genocide is actions which will stop a group from existing. The word literally translates as "the killing of a race (genus)". If a group is moved, it still exists as long as it's still together.

I think you might be getting mixed up as the forced relocation of children can fall under genocide. That's because the result is the group has no offspring, and will die out.

None of this changes what Israel is doing. It's genocide.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

I've never seen so much discussion about the semantics of "genocide" since Israel started its attacks on Palestine.

You can tell who the bad guys are when the most its supporters can do is pull out a dictionary and say "Well TECHNICALLY..."

(Not saying you're a supporter; just speaking in general)

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

I think when you're accusing a country of war crimes, it's important not to be hyperbolic. If you inflate what is going on, it just allows your enemies to do exactly as you say and go "Well TECHNICALLY it's not genocide". You want to nail them to the wall for what they are actually doing so they can't escape.

We all know that ethnic cleansing will probably deteriorate into genocide, because people will not want or will not be able to leave, but to "jump the gun" (sorry) just gives them a way out.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not an international Court or judge or anything, nor do I think I have the be all end all of opinions.

So I don't think there's any harm in me "calling it like I see it" even if it is a bit early and not 100% technically accurate.

I think it's a bad look when people are saying "TECHNICALLY [...]", so that works for me.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Israel is trying to turn Palestinians against Hamas. A political goal it seeks to achieve through violence.

[-] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

leave it up for israelis to find a way to mix mutually exclusive things though, like their love for nazism and judaism

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