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Is there a way to seek out certain edibles effects like how is done with different flower strains for smoking? It seems like the edibles market in Arizona is far less diverse than flower and I'm wondering if it has to do with the effects of edibles in general? I generally want a product that will energize me and help with the creakyness I've developed over the years. I basically never seek out a mellowing high or a couch lock. Thank you for any help 😁

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[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Pretty sure it's mostly placebo, so find some edibles marked "sativa", pretend the strains didn't get irreparably mixed during prohibition, tell yourself this is better for creativity and energy, then take a smaller dose and hope for the best.

Edit: while I've never seen it, it's not impossible to imagine edibles with caffeine in them as well. Or to take some caffeine close to when your edible hits. I like to start some weekend mornings with a big pot of strong coffee and a bowl, and I tend to get a lot done those mornings. Although, I was cleaning, doing chores and cooking on Sunday morning before I started my little ritual, so take from that what you will.

[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Caffeine you say? I do medicated coffee daily, with my own tincture, works like a charm.

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Hey that sounds interesting, can you tell me more about it and how you do it? I loooooooooove coffee, and if it got me high, I bet I'd like that too

[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I vape dry herb, which gives me ABV.

I collect an eighth or so, drop it into an iced tea bag, put that into a 600ml beaker, smother it in Big Red 190 (half the $ of Everclear) and let sit overnight.

In the morning (and for dayz after) I draw off 5-10cc’s, drop it in a mug, do pour over to taste and add cream to bind the THC and make it digestible.

Solid 10/10.

Sorry for the wall’o’text, hope it helps.

[-] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm sure the coffee covers most of the abv taste but if you water cure it first the resulting tincture tastes way better. I use a French press and agitate with the plunger, change water then agitate some more for 4 or 5 cycles until the water is clean looking then dry. Seems like more work than it is and the extracts or edibles I make taste way better.

[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I have not done this in the past because, as you said, it seemed like a lot of extra work. As you outlined it though, using the FP, seems pretty ez and def worth trying. Question. Do you “assist” the drying, i.e. low heat convection oven or just let it dry over time?

[-] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I just let it dry. I usually use mine to put in baked goods so I if it's still a little damp it doesn't matter. For tincture I'd think fan, low temp oven or whatever would be ideal. It gets pretty dry just with the press and then I use paper towels to squeeze some more. I favor a coarser grind which helps so ymmv in that respect.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My partner and I accidentally discovered "the trifecta" of alcohol, weed, and caffeine. But it's a careful balance, you don't want a lot of any one thing.

The idea is just enough alcohol to loosen up but not enough to get drunk, a bit of weed to ground you but not so much that it's overwhelming, and caffeine to offset the sleepiness and brain fog. For us it means two espresso cocktails and half a small joint.

Obviously not something you want to do often, but ngl it's nice

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

This is my casual cocktail of substances when out partying, hit on the vape cart, a redbull vodka to start, then just booze as the night goes on.

But it's funny you say this because I've been thinking about trying some of these popular espresso cocktails I've been seeing. I just made myself a "whoo! Fuckin Friday!" pot of very nice coffee and put a splash of amaretto in there and might spark up when the boytoy gets home, but you got any recommendations for espresso cocktails to make at home?

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm a big fan of "coffee and liquor of choice".

Espresso cocktails are better made with, well, espresso imo. Licor 43 is my absolute favorite spirit to pair with coffee, it's a sweet vanilla caramel flavored liquor. I like to mix it 50/50 with whiskey to increase the alcohol content without sacrificing flavor. Irish cream is also a well known favorite.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A lot of the dispensaries here have weed infused soda so those contain both caffeine and THC. You could also just smoke and then drink a cup of coffee.

Also 100% agreed that it's all placebo regarding the whole indica versus sativa business.

[-] TheOffice_Plant@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

I have found a lot of success with CBG gummies for the energizing effect without the high. I am surprisingly more alert and focused when I take them. I found a THC vape pen that was high in the cbg, and I actually had to stop hitting it early in the afternoon or I couldn't settle down.

I have been smoking/getting high for years, and I had never experienced that before. Placebo or not, I believe it improves my day to day life (when used appropriately).

[-] investorsexchange@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I agree with this. Try different combinations of CBD, CBG and CBN to see how they affect you. I have only tried THC alone (nice mild buzz) and with CBG (full body high). With CBG was a far stronger effect for me, but since I was just trying different brands, it took me a couple times to figure out what was producing the different effect.

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Edibles can be finicky, and a lot of it has to do with how your body metabolizes ingested THC. For example, my brother gets basically nothing out of edibles, while I feel strong, wildly different effects depending on the strain.

[-] JGrffn@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Ok so it's not just me then? I can get pretty fucked out of 0.1g to 0.3g of vaped weed, but I have to choke on some heavy cannabutter to feel the effects. My girlfriend barely gets a buzz off vaped weed, but will get fucked by a few grams of the same cannabutter.

[-] flumph@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

Is that why I sometimes wake up still high after taking an edible to fall asleep? I just assumed the dose per piece wasn't as tightly controlled as they advertise.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think this has to do with what type of edibles it is and how spread out it is through food.

For example, if I eat a large brownie with 10mg in it, that's going to basically have a time release effect if I don't eat some more food with it or after it. I've taken brownies before that didn't kick in until I had another snack or meal after. I think of it like pushing the edible through.

So yeah I'd imagine if you took an edible a few hours before bed, ate no additional food, you'd probably feel it in the morning still.

Tinctures seem to kick in fast no matter what I eat or drink after though.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

It's been my experience that people who claim edibles "don't work for them" are just heavy flower smokers. Once I quit smoking, I had much better and more consistent experiences with edibles.

I also find tinctures in seltzer or chocolates to be the best replacement for smoking because they seem to take effect faster than a brownie or cookie.

[+] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

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[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

Tincture is easy to make. Get a cheap ounce or use some larf from a home grow and make some.

I use the "cold green dragon" method, I think. It's basically just grain alcohol and then you throw it in the freezer for 4 hours, strain it and then you can optionally evaporate off around half the alcohol by closing a coffee filter over the jar.

Then grab some store brand seltzer and drop a milliliter of tincture in it, if you evaporate some of the alcohol you'll barely taste it with a flavored seltzer.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Is there any way to know the potency? I like to be precise with my doses since my partner is pretty sensitive to it (but still enjoys it)

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I usually do some rough math but test in small amounts before settling on what I'd consider a comfortable dose for one can of seltzer. The seltzer is zero calories so you can always drink another.

Let's say the flower is 15% potent. There are 28.4 grams in an ounce. That means the amount of THC in that ounce is 28400mg * .15 = 4260mg.

You'd soak that ounce in Everclear which is 180+ proof. They say it's a 100% extraction rate. I usually use two cups of Everclear, but I don't get both cups fully out.

Assuming that you end up with 1 cup (237ml) of tincture that contains 4260mg, then the absolute max mg per ml of tincture is 4260 / 237 = 17.9mg of THC per ml of tincture.

Then if you evaporated off half the alcohol over 3-4 weeks, you'd end up with (max of) 17.9mg of THC per .5 ml of tincture.

In reality it's probably less than that because some of the THC probably remains with the plant matter that you throw out, but it's a good place to start to figure out what the absolute max would be.

I usually do the above and just from personal experience I think .5ml is between 10-15mg and one seltzer with .5mg is usually good for me. It kicks in quicker than other edibles, you can always have another one.

I try to keep it around .5ml per seltzer just so it doesn't taste as much like alcohol. The freezer extraction method for four hours is quicker and safer than heat extractions and it apparently results in less-awful tasting tincture. Evaporation also improves the potency to alcohol ratio which improves the taste.

Apparently you can let almost all the alcohol evaporate and then dilute the result with vegetable glycerin, but I haven't tried that as it seems like the result is super difficult to work with if too much alcohol evaporates. You do have to stir the tincture before using because you can visibly see the potency settle at the bottom.

[-] noride@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Not a lot of control with edibles, but at the end of the day, a lighter does will produce a lighter effect. Beyond that you're just regurgitating marking material.

A light euphoric high, good for creativity suuuuure bud. 🙄

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago

I actually bought some "sativa edibles" thinking I'd enjoy the pairing of euphoria with a productivity boost as I tidied up the home and by gosh I sure did! I got so much done! I was a cleaning tornado, even vacuumed with the powder and all while I caught up on podcasts.

My boyfriend takes the same chewables to help him sleep 🫠

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In my personal experience, a bowl or two of sativa gives that "up" feeling and makes me wanna do stuff. But if I smoke like an entire 8th of it, it makes me sleepy AF.

[-] surfrock66@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I find a brand that seems robust and it's well stocked at my retailer and order a variety, then I find one or two I like and stick to thirst for a while. I have a list of 4-5 go-tos that do the trick, and it took a month or so to figure that out.

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Not too sure how all cannaboids are liver processed but if you can find any full spectrum edibles they should give more varying effects. Most will be pretty THC dominant - so more traditional sativa like

[-] bizzle@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Coffee and a joint is my go-to

[-] Horsey@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I'll be honest, I'm trying not to smoke unless I really need a short lived effect haha.

[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Smoking may be short lived but it does the job more reliably in my experience. I take an edible just for a baseline high, wait a little while and then hit a vape like once every hour or so. That way you aren't wasting edibles on getting higher than you wanted and your smoking supplies last longer because 1 puff = really high.

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