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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 94 points 10 months ago

Not even CNN is talking about it, lol, Ukraine has lost the liberals.

[-] flan@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago

i torture myself on an oldschool liberal message board and they are very much still in the tank for Ukraine. They aren't really operating in any sort of realm we can consider reality anymore though. They use numbers more than double what even the US says for casualties, for example. I don't think they even know this has happened.

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[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 78 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If Ukraine loses and is forced to offer serious concessions to Russia (unlike the deal they already had and NATO prevented), the well armed extremists in Ukraine will go crazy. And they will probably be by far the most powerful faction. We could see terrorist attacks all over Europe from them.

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 59 points 10 months ago

Wait, but what if one of them rallies people by saying how their leadership betrayed them and it was because of the influence of powerful Jews? seen-this-one

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

hopefully somebody with the means is smart enough to whack that guy

[-] edge@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hopefully Russia actually enforces "de-Nazification". At the very least by whacking any Nazi gaining power.

But that's probably wishful thinking.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

idk. Supposedly Putin et al did crack down on openly Nazi gangs in Russia, but I have no idea if they applied the same verve to fascist russian nationalists.

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[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

we will, they'll need Strategy of Tension ops to bring restive labor to heel and these guys will be ripe for the job

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

i really wonder, though, how much of the ultra-nationalist turbo nazis are once again fertilizing the fields of Ukraine as their heros in the SS Galacian division did so long ago. What happens in obviously failed wars like this? Do the ideological troops go in to hiding so they can do terrorism later, or do they all fight to the last and end up dead?

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

I suspect the smarter ones are already on their way to Canada

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 26 points 10 months ago

Mushrooms returning to the fetid pile of shit from which they bloomed.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is exactly what the US wants though. As Europe becomes more destabilized and uninhabitable, more and more people (especially skilled workers and highly educated professionals) will be looking for a way out.

Some will probably go to places like China, but the vast majority of them will end up in the US as cheap labor with H-1B visas, competing and dragging down domestic wages. Literally cheap labor from Europe.

The irony is that this was exactly what the EU did to the post-Soviet states in the 1990s. A lot of brain drain from post-Soviet Russia and Europe practically received a whole bunch of cheap skilled workers taught by a very high quality Soviet education system. This is shock therapy in action.

This is what Western imperialism has been doing to the Global South over the past century, with economic migrants moving to Western countries.

Only this time it is happening to the Europeans themselves.

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[-] davel@hexbear.net 59 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So I can drop the Ukrainian flag from my display name now?

[-] edge@hexbear.net 39 points 10 months ago

Anyone with it still in their display name is probably pretty committed. It'll probably stick around until the war is actually over, and a little past that.

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[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 52 points 10 months ago

2.5k comments

I'm sure it'll be a comment section full of "nuance" and "civility", and complete understanding of this "complicated" decision. biden-troll

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

Guy looks like a fucking Sopranos character lmfao

[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago

Seems fitting considering they're essentially running the biggest criminal organization in the world.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

PEACE IN OUR TIME

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

wE CAn AfFoRd TwO wARs

:spongebob

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