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[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 114 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, I'd be confused and concerned too if a time travelling European from the 18th century stepped off a boat in 1492

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 62 points 10 months ago

People genuinely do not understand history.

I think a good comedic example of this is in Futurama, where some characters from the year 3000 get tossed back to Roswell in 1947. They try to blend with "period correct clothes" and lingo, but since they're 1000 years out of place, they're combining things that hadn't been invented yet with stuff from 1947s past.

A lot of people seem to think cleopatra was hanging out with the dudes who built the pyramids and think it's weird Sparta and Rome never went to war. I mean, sure technically they both existed in an overlapping period of about 50 years, but technically the USA has had diplomatic contact with the Holy Roman Empire for a few years.

Imagine if a shuttle landed on the planet and someone from 2402 popped out with their neon implants, xarthan death spikes proudly displayed, and an onion on their belt. Everyone knows they don't show up until at least 2215.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 16 points 10 months ago

and an onion on their belt.

Which will be the style at the time, of course.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

I don't know if there's any period in history where having an onion on your belt would be a bad idea.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 10 months ago

Then again, there isn't one where it's a particularly good one, either 🤷

[-] lightnegative@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Onions have layers

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

You are right and i know this isnt what you were thinking about, but Rome and sparta did go to war

I like the futurama reference

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 15 points 10 months ago

Shhhhhhhhh....

Also, I thought Sparta had been absorbed by the Achaean League by then.

I guess I helped further prove my point that people don't know history.

[-] match@pawb.social 64 points 10 months ago

native ppl: these dudes are sickly, scurvied, and so pale they look like they're about to die, we have to give them food

europeans: they bring us offerings! they must think we're gods, probably

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The white people as gods myth likely comes from Australia where pale people were thought of as ghosts and treated well and given things they'd need on their trip to the aboriginal afterlife of sorts.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To be fair, this is looking more like late XVIII century man with advanced syphilis, but after looking some of late XV century portraits the point still somewhat stands anyway.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Why the fuck would you use Roman numerals?

[-] hackris@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some Slavic languages, such as Russian, use Roman numerals for numbering centuries

Edit: why was this downvoted? If I'm wrong please tell me, I'd like to learn :)

[-] ShieldOxygene@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In some roman language like french too !

[-] catfish@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

Spanish too

[-] samuelinox@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

some latin languages as well!

[-] Gerula@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It's called history.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

I couldn't give VIII fucks if he uses Roman numerals

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It's in the username!

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Arabic numerals are the devil's numbers!

[-] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Gets off the boat, gets out his gun: "Let me show you a magic trick!"

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 24 points 10 months ago

When men were men 🥰

[-] arymandias@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

Imagine a few days later everyone he got into contact with getting horribly sick and dying.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

While that happened, and vice versa, this info often tries to whitewash USAs war on indigenous people, and systematic genocide to irradicate the "savage natives" https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states

[-] arymandias@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Both can be (and are) true, while the Europeans and later Americans did many things that would now be classified as genocide and ethnic cleansing, the majority of the native population simply died inadvertently of diseases. It’s actually unlikely that the Europeans would have been able to so thoroughly conquer the Americas if the native population would have survived the first wave of diseases.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This makes me think you did not read the full article and the timeline. Of course the indigenous people survived the first wave of diseases. The majority did not die out, This is why the colonizers were later fruatrated with the situation of trying to expand into more land. There are so many historic books about the systematic elimination of "Indians". The diaease trope is what is taught in american school so we can feel detached from their ultimate demise. But if you don't have time to search and read, just look at this wiki link on how many were genocided rather than the paltry few you think were left over from disease. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

And then hands you a cool blanket.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Apparently this is largely a myth, somebody did try it on a single occasion but it doesn't actually work to spread smallpox. That guy was clearly an arsehole, but yeah, apparently it wasn't a thing. I don't know how important this is given the near total genocide of the Native Americans, but it's funny how some things become "common knowledge" and some things never really get out. Soap made of Jews is another one - it was apparently an urban legend at the time due to the letters written on the rationed bars of soap. Again, more than enough evil to go around without the soap. It does seem that one insane commandants wife collected people's tattooed skin and likely did make a lampshade out of human skin. People say that didn't happen, but there's a pretty convincing photograph out there of all the seized items at one camp. Can't remember why I started talking about this, think I was trying to distract myself from a stomachache.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Americans forget their history because it is not widely taight to them, so the smallpox prevails, but history channel put together a good summary of American Genocide https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states

[-] match@pawb.social -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

the fact that in an era with relatively few records, there is a recorded intentional attempt to spread smallpox (~~even if incompetent)~~ is plenty to assert that the Europeans intentionally spread smallpox

edit: the CDC does say contaminated bedding can spread smallpox. reconsider the sources telling you it's a myth

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is the final evolution of the Trump take over. The upper crust will all start wearing blonde feathery wigs and painting themselves orange to demonstrate their genetic superiority. Oh and a suit two sizes too big.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago
[-] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 10 months ago

Ok, I see we have run out of memes and are staring to repost everything again. Time to start new service guys.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Be the change you want to see

[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

FFffFflooUuriishhh the pinkaaayyyyyy!

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago

Yeeee-eeeeeeeeeee-sssssss!

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

What a floating dollhouse. Can't believe they are even moving, talking. It was a really weird experience.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] axellenium@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

"My aim is true, as my eye is the Prophet's."

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