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[-] ApeCavalryArt@lemmy.world 66 points 8 months ago

HB 269 - "The purpose of the bill is to add "sexual contact" to the incest statute. Currently, incest only applies in cases of intercourse. So sexual touching/ groping by .. anyone with a familial relationship is not included in incest. My bill makes that kind of sexual contact a Class D Felony, unless the victim is under the age of 12, then it increases the penalty to a Class C Felony."

Basically they accidentally left out cousins (and the bill has already been withdrawn) from what sounds like an otherwise good bill and the news media runs wild. Keep this handy when you hear about this for the next ( if <= heat death of the Universe )

[-] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

imho incest should only be outlawed because of the risk of gene defects during pregnancy. so while nasty I dont think a hanky panky from your first cousin should be outlawed

and no, I dont have a hot cousin

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Beyond the potential biological issues, the biggest problem tends to be coercion and consent. The majority of incestuous encounters are abusive and involve a power dynamic that makes informed consent impossible.

Now, if every party is an adult and capable of informed consent, it is possible to test for likelihood of genetic defects based upon the parents' genes. So, I can't think of a non-subjective objection if, for example, they met for the first time as adults and didn't know of such relation. Still pretty weird to me but I don't think it's anyone's place to interfere with healthy, loving relationships.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Honestly, this reads like someone dealing with the cognitive dissonance of trying to maintain that they believe that adults should be able to have consensual relations with each other, but at the same time supporting laws that outlaw something they've been conditioned to believe is icky.

It's sounds nearly identical to the "we can't allow gay relationships because they're recruiting kids!"

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[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Why is it nasty if you recognize there is no real risk of genetic issues?

[-] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

no rational reason. just feels wrong to me.

but since I recohnize this I dont think it should be prohibited. hope that makes sense

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

This would be a great example of fake news.

[-] ApeCavalryArt@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Years ago in KY there was an anti-bestiality bill which was defeated. Reason was that it was so vaguely worded that animal husbandry and certain veterinarian practices would be technically illegal.

[-] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

People are talking about it like they are saying it's legal, rather than it just being left out of a list. Which sure, if it's left out on purpose, that's pretty telling. But a loophole in a law isn't always done on purpose. I'm willing to beleive for now it was an accident

[-] craigers@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago

So I do not endorse this guy or any GOP member in any way. But if you read the article he says dropping the first cousin from the list was an error of omission and not intentional, and he is re-filing the bill to include it. The intent of the bill was to expand the classification of incest beyond just intercourse to include any type of sexual contact. Which seems like its actually progressive, just not clickbait worthy.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't call that "progressive" but it's not exactly libertarian freedom either. The actual law seems weirder than trying to deregulate cousin incest.

Not that I really feel strongly about it but I don't see the state interest in specifically banning cousin blowjobs. Seems like one of those things that should be in the dustbin of overtightened sexual restrictions like sodomy laws.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago

I've seen some compelling arguments for decriminalizing incest. Basically rape is already illegal [citation needed], the genetic risk is pretty small for the average person, and ultimately regulating what weird stuff consenting adults might choose to do in the bedroom is generally not a good thing. There is of course the problem of social/power dynamics and how that might play into consent but that's another issue not exclusive to incest.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

you could argue that accidentally making cousin fucking legal, like accidentally making weed legal in minnesota (was that minnesota? I think so) is part of an ongoing issue where republicans don't actually know what the laws they're implementing do.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Maybe he has a personal interest in this?

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The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases "unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age," in which case it is Class C.

uhhhhhhhhhhh…. that age cutoff seems low

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 14 points 8 months ago

Not if the child he has his eye set on is just above it. :-(

[-] S_204@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

She's 10, laws take time to enact....

These people are horrid.

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[-] oxjox@lemmy.ml 35 points 8 months ago

So… the same party that wants to stop same sex couples from having sex is upset that the government is telling them whom they can’t have sex with? Golly.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

"look, all I'm saying is, two men having consensual sex is wrong. Why can't they be normal and have sex with their 12 year old cousin, like me?"

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[-] Pissnpink@feddit.uk 35 points 8 months ago

That's the look of a man the fucked his first cousin.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago
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[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Guys. I just can't!

Rainbow flags and healthcare for trans people: no way fuck that shit! It's bad for children

Sex with family: no no. It's ok. It's my cousin.

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[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

"Republican tries to change law so he can fuck his family, nobody bat an eye"

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago

hes a republican so hes already fucking everyone elses family already anyway

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

No, so his already existing relationship is okay.

[-] linuxfiend@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago

Someone wants to bang their first cousin.

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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 15 points 8 months ago

Republicans: "It's not pedophilia if we get rid of the laws making it illegal!"

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago

Also Republicans: gay sex leads to pedophilia!

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Oh so this is why all of Project Zomboid's maps are in Kentucky. They're not zombies, just inbred.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The jokes write themselves.

[-] chrishazfun@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

how the fuck is this a real headline

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Because its very misleading and does not properly represent what happened. It was designed to have a response of disbelief.

[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Of course they did.

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

We need to make Kentucky Man a thing

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

How is this important enough to occupy the time of our politicians?

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean…look at that guy. It probably occupies all of his time. They intentionally picked that photo for this exact reason, I’m sure.

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[-] SoupyHappenstance@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

This guy's got a couple first cousins somewhere blushing furiously.

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[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Is this guy the representative for Shelbyville?

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago

he must be from shelbyville

[-] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

Hm, I wonder who he is sleeping with...

[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I mean ... the suspect pool is not particularly large.

[-] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

First cousins in Kentucky? That's probably only a few hundred thousand people it could be.

[-] omega_x3@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

In his defense New York did allow FDR to marry his first cousin.

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

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[-] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 5 points 8 months ago

It's still incest mate. Even if you make it legal incest.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

I rock climb in Kentucky sometimes. It looks like a war zone. Maybe they should fix the astounding levels of poverty, instead of ensuring that it’s legal to bang your family.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 8 months ago

"This is the problem I wanted to solve when I was elected"

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

At first I assumed since this is a Republican that it would be about reducing abortions in case they had an incest exception.

Turns out they don't have such an exception, so he must have a really hot first cousin that is otherwise dtf.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

"I hate how everyone always stereotypes and makes fun of us southern states so much, it's not fair."

Then they go do shit like this.

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