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[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

uhhh, tell that to the slow trains China genocided 🚆 🪦 🙏

[-] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The deserts, too! Don't forget the deserts!

[-] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find all the buthurt libs in the comment section quite funny. The US spent decades in the middle east and all it accomplished was wars, misery and death. China managed to restore diplomatic relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia, two sworn enemies for decades! What more evidence do you need that China is for peace and the US for war?

Face it, the US is a horrible country that has done nothing else other than inflict suffering on anyone that it has ever come across. China is the best hope for humanity, and you better hope they become the de facto world leader. If they colapse by some ungodly reason, then you might as well start searching for ways to leave this planet, because it will become one giant hellhole.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't mind me just waiting for my popcorn to be ready for this thread

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago
[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It was easy. China is in the title and a lot of our new visitors seem to be allergic to that.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's like hypnotism. 123 you're under. When someone says, 'China', you lose the power of critical thinking and repeat after me.

I wonder if we find the magic clap or finger click they'll snap out of it?

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And these are the same people who think that everyone in China is brainwashed and manipulated by their government.

Chinese people don't go into a blind frothing-at-the-mouth Pavlovian rage every time the US is mentioned.

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I guess we should forget about Tiananmen Square massacre then. Or the Uyghur genocide. Cool.

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I assure you, if protestors (see rioters) in any western country burned 2 police or soldiers alive, it wouldn't end with a so-called massacre where as many security forces died as rioters. It'd be a literal bloodbath, it'd be tens of thousands of dead and it'd be far better documented than a picture of bicycles lying around and a not killed man in front of tanks leaving the square the day after. I'm not even saying the 4th June incident isn't well documented, but you assholes don't give two shits when the documentation doesn't suit your preconceptions.

Also, even if you can't be bothered to investigate the truth of the situation, even the US State dept. dropped the genocide line. If you don't have independent thought you should at least follow direction.

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Right.. I am the one with preconceptions. Sure..

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I can fill pages with what I did and you didn't that gives me confidence you're the one acting with preconceptions based on propoganda, but it'd be quite useless. So I'll issue you a challenge as well, for your edification only. Look for western news articles on whatever crime you think China has committed, preferably something more recent, and look though the linked sources.

Seriously. While you're taking a dump or whatever, open up an article, and check the links. A lot of them will be to other articles. After a chain of linking you might end up on a non-news page, maybe a UN thing, that references a study or report. You'll probably have to dig up the report yourself. If you do all that you'll find really stupid stuff, like a "study" that surveyed 8 people (yes, eight) to make the estimate that 1-3 million uyghurs are in camps. Or you'll get to BBC saying "report says seeseepee officials want assimilation" and refer to a 50 page report that has one word that might be translated as assimilation and nothing else.

[-] m532@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone has preconceptions, yours are based on the illusion of western supremacy.

[-] Tillyrblue@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Is this article supposed to be a joke?

[-] Beam@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Cracking article.

The text mentions maintaining good relations with Russia and Ukraine. This is something of a surprise to me. Obviously all I've heard from western sources is that China is working with Russia. Now, I've not fallen for the rhetoric that China is 'supporting' the invasion in the same sense that NATO is supporting unending war from the Ukrainian side. That doesn't square with China's foreign policy. It's (i) projection, (ii) intended to smear China's good name (iii) woefully insufficient to achieve number (ii).

But do you know much about China's relationship with Ukraine? All I've seen is China working hard to bring the two sides to the negotiating table. That in itself is a lot, especially when NATO member states are doing everything they can to keep the war going. But is it more than that?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

China kept good relations with Ukraine since (except China keeping good relations with anyone they can of course) Ukraine was part important trade route to Europe and a big market for China on its own. This soured in 2021 iirc when Ukraine blocked chinese trade to force huge amounts of truck permits on Poland, so the alternate northen route was developed though Lithuania.

China have real problems with land exports to Europe since the Stupidity Belt countries are stupid and use Chinese trade as the tool for their shenanigans.

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago
[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No

Thank you for taking the time to make a nuanced argument. I'm particularly happy with how much effort you went to source your statements and then synthesize them into a useful conclusion that I hadn't considered before. It is always nice to see a comment like yours that proves that people do read articles (and not just headlines)! I wish we could all contribute as much as you do.

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Implying they could've done anything other than rage aimlessly at fact they couldn't refute yet wouldn't accept. Although one wonders the mindest to make a comment that's just "No."

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure, but I'm guessing it was someone covering their insecurities through a mask of smugness.

[-] Fortychops@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago
[-] basedposter@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Liberalism and Wikipedia go hand in hand.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

only people with brains as smooth a bowling balls are still peddling this conspiracy theory

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

POV: You know so little google had to correct your spelling of Uyghur to show you the wiki page.

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