816

Obviously, supporting a New York real estate billionaire is anti-establishment for some reason (feddit.de)

submitted 10 months ago by Oiconomia@feddit.de to c/memes@lemmy.ml

118 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 156 points 10 months ago

Socialist devs now

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Socialism by definition is not anti establishment. It's anti current establishment but the philosophy is geared towards a bigger government "establishment".

[-] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 10 months ago

No, it is not. Socialism does not mean statism. Please feel free to read up on libertarian socialism, Anarcho syndicalism or even eco socialism. The Greens/EFA in europe lean towards libertarian socialism.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 10 months ago

Libertarian socialist here: Say it again for the people at the back.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I was 100% not aware if libertarian socialism. Definitely something to learn about. Thank you

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure that's the difference between anti establishing and anti government. the "establishment" is the established power structure. technically fascists ARE anti establishment in most places. and that's a very good thing.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 points 10 months ago

Are they tho

Republicans are going mask off, Italy is run by fascists again, AfD is at 20%, Putin is invading neighbors and bankrolling white supremacists world wide, Israel's engaging in open genocide, their neighbors wish they could do the same, the second largest party in Sweden was founded by Neo-Nazis...

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Don't forget India's BJP/VHP/RSS ecosystem.

load more comments (1 replies)

load more comments (3 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

load more comments (5 replies)

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 118 points 10 months ago

I think that's the difference: Pirate Bay and Silkroad knew they were inherently anti-establishment, but it seems to me that Parler and Gab think of themselves as "alternative establishment" or something.

Pirate Bay was never trying to compete with Netflix or Steam-- it's conceptually very different. But Parler very much wants (wanted?) to just be Twitter but with right-wing politics.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Parler and gab just want to be mask-off racist twitter/facebook. Nothing anti-establishment there at all.

Pirate Bay and Silk Road were knowingly breaking the law in nearly every nation on earth and trying to avoid capture doing so, both failed to do so by various degrees. This is anti-establishment as they are flagrantly disobeying copyright and narcotics laws at these two sites.

Pirate Bay is still operational, just not by the original owner. I don’t know about Silk Road as I have no interest in drugs

[-] notasandwich1948@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

pretty sure silk road is gone irrc. I could be thinking of something else tho.

[-] Hexasphertate@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Silk road is long gone but there are a plethora of other similar markets. Just like any other service in demand when one gets shutdown three more pop up in it's place.

[-] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 26 points 10 months ago

That’s a great distinction, I’m gonna start stealing that.

Some people aren’t anti establishment, they are anti-not-my-establishment. You can’t call yourself anti establishment if you just don’t like the current one.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

It's simpler than that: fascists lie.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 91 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Those fucks who run Parler aren’t anti-establishment, quite the opposite, they are boot licking fascists.

load more comments (49 replies)

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 57 points 10 months ago

My dad always said "Don't trust a man in a suit telling you who's wrong" but then again he fell in line with Trump when he grew old.

Christ, if that happens to me, kill me.

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, he did it so you won't get a chance to.

[-] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

I don't know what this is referring to, but GoDaddy can suck an entire warehouse of cocks.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 38 points 10 months ago

I demand the government force this private company to provide me free speech.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

Shit that makes you go https://i.imgur.com/rITNPGY.jpg

[-] uis@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Embed please.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago

I would advice against hosting servers in Russia, though. Police raids on datacenters, where they literally rip servers out from the racks, are, unfortunately, a common occurence.

load more comments (18 replies)

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 months ago

Fascists aren't anti establishment. Their whole thing is doing even worse things to preserve capitalism when it enters crisis.

[-] crackajack@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

They become the establishment.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago

No, they always were. That's the point of fascism. To present an "alternative" that keeps the same group in power.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

We are on the anti establishment platform my guy

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I'm not a dev. What's a mirror? Sorry for being uncool.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 35 points 10 months ago

Basically a copy of the infrastructure, so that you can switch over, if the first/main instance is lost (by a government, for example).

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Hate when the government loses my servers :(

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 10 months ago

Literally a server standing by and doing the same thing as the other by being a backup in case the 1st gets taken down.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] kusukasaka281@lemmy.id 13 points 10 months ago

Gab has their own server infrastructure.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Can we DDoS it?

[-] Random_German_Name@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Apparently they’re working on Christian AI too lol

load more comments

this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2024

816 points (96.6% liked)

Memes

45660 readers

968 users here now

Rules:

Be civil and nice.
Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml

sexy_peach@feddit.de

cyclohexane@lemmy.ml

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml