Israel proposes 2-month ceasefire in Gaza for release of all hostages (www.axios.com)

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago

Last time they had a ceasefire israel violated it within hours. And the IDF already re-kidnapped many the people that they released under the hostage deal.

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 31 points 9 months ago

Israel just got shit on by a single RPG strike, so I guess this is an attempt to quell domestic discontent.

[-] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

Two Israeli officials said the Israeli war cabinet approved ten days ago the parameters of a new proposal for a hostage deal, which are different from past aspects of deals rejected by Hamas and more forward-leaning than previous Israeli proposals.

This stuff really doesn't happen that quickly.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

Gee, I wonder what will happen the second Israel gets their hostages back and the "2 months" is over?

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

Do you honestly think they’ll wait two months. Once the hostages are released (maybe even slightly before all the hostages are released) the bombing will begin mmw.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Hence the double quotes. During the ceasefire someone in Hamas will stupidly fire a rocket not even in the direction of Israel, someone in Hamas will use it as an opportunity to catch Israel off-guard and fire a rocket towares Israel, Israel will lie and say a rocket was fired at them, or an IDF soldier will fire a rocket and say it was a Palestinian.

In all cases the bouncer from New Jersey will retaliate by slaughtering a massive number of women and children and maybe a combatant or three.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Gee, I wonder what will happen the second Israel gets their hostages back ~~and the “2 months” is over?~~

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That asshole Netanyahu puts me more on Palestine’s side every day.

Fuck their two months. Permanent ceasefire or nothing.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Seeing how they treat their own hostages, I genuinely believe they're safer in the hands of Hamas.

[-] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 7 points 9 months ago

Now when this obviously absurd deal is rejected there will be another claim from the Likuds that Palestinians in general are impossible to negotiate with which will make total sense to anyone working backward from the conclusion that the secular state of Israel would never lie and can do no wrong.

[+] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works -8 points 9 months ago

I don't understand why Hamas doesn't just let them go. Israel has already shown that there's nothing to be gained from keeping the hostages. The international PR win alone would be worth releasing them at this point.

[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 28 points 9 months ago

Hostages create internal turmoil against Netanyahu in the Israeli government. It also ensures that some aid actually reaches Gaza.

[+] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works -10 points 9 months ago

Except it's accomplished none of that. If anything, keeping the hostages reduces any anti-Netanyahu sentiment, as some people will view it as continued justification for the current war.

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

You still believe this genocide in Gaza has anything to do with hostages? The Israeli government delivers cash payments to Hamas because they need Hamas and they know it. The hostages are just an inconvenience the Israeli government doesn't want to deal with. The hostages could have all been released back in October if the Israelis really wanted it.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works -4 points 9 months ago

You still believe this genocide in Gaza has anything to do with hostages?

I never even implied that I believe that. In fact, I've said nothing about my feelings on the overall conflict.

All I've said is that I don't see why Hamas doesn't return them (independent of whatever the Israeli government is doing) and take the easy PR win. The hostages are one of the main things that tempering international and internal pressure on the Israeli government.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

PR is useless when US Veto anything Israel related. The hostages will ensure the Israeli citizens to think twice before electing Zainoist.

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