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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev

I've used a US-QWERTY keyboard layout my entire life. I've seen other layouts that do things like reduce the size of the enter/backspace keys, move the pipe operator (|) and can't wrap my head around how I would code on those.

What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?

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[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I'm columnar-ortho now, but for standard it's ISO or bust. You can keep your shitty enter key and your overly long shift key

[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

If I have to work on an American QUERTY keyboard, I have to look for each and every special character. Because our QWERTZ-keyboard has them in other places to make space for all the interesting characters an American keyboard simply fails to offer.

[-] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 2 points 9 months ago

As a German I have to admit that the ANSI US layout is the one American standard that's superior to the European ones. That said, I still need some Umlaute and accented letters from time to time, which is why I use the EurKEY layout, which adds all of those keys back and many morek, most of them accessible without having to use a dead key.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The British want a stupid as fuck they moved the tilde into a weird spot and you're basically can't do it

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[-] natecox@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

I use a sub-40% layout that I love. I wrote all about it here: https://natecox.dev/lets-talk-about-keyboards

[-] brie@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Used US and JP qwerty, both are fine after a while, but switching can be annoying (mostly I mix up whether " or @ is Shift-2).

The one thing I hate is the fragmentation of the bottom left cluster. I started out on keyboards with Ctrl Fn Super Alt, but now I much prefer Fn Ctrl Alt Super.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Started on US, now using DE for decades. But able to still use us. Slash position is a plus there.

But Swiss, that's the stuff of nightmares! Oh and mac while usable unnecessarily sucks too imo.

[-] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

But Swiss, that’s the stuff of nightmares!

Ha, that sounds funny (in a morbid kind of way...). What's so bad about it?

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[-] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

I can't even wrap my mind around people who use 60% keyboards and use a bunch of extra function keys let alone anything more drastic

[-] wiillou@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

I use Coleman DH and symbols have never been an issue because I just put them on another layer 😅

[-] brunofin@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I used to use the Brazilian ABNT-2 layout, it's pretty much just a US layout with accent keys that activate like a second layer for some specific keys to display specific Portuguese language characters such as ç á à â ã é è etc. It's surprisingly ok for programming as it doesn't get in the way because you have special keys to activate the 2nd layer and most of them you need to spread shift + something in order to activate them. I'd say it's a good layout.

[-] umbraroze@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm using Finnish keyboard layout (same as Swedish basically).

I like how AltGr+7/8/9/0 gives me { [ ] }, it's a very nice grouping. The key next to Z is < > and you get | with AltGr, which is very handy.

Only thing that's mildy annoying from programming viewpoint is that for tilde and backtick, the keys do diacritics - you need to press the diacritic key and space. Backtick is especially fun, because it's shift+acute, space. Meanwhile, the key next to 1 does § ½, which aren't that handy most of the time. I often just stick backtick on that key if I'm particularly assed to customise keyboard keyouts. Similarly, shift+4 is ¤, which is another not a particularly useful character (but I don't mind that, because £ $ € all need to be produced with AltGr, which is at least consistent).

[-] simonced@lemmy.one 1 points 9 months ago

Using the JIS layout. One thing I miss from ANSI is the single and double quotes on my right pinky.(on the same key) Other than that, JIS is a nice layout to do programing with.

[-] dotslashme@infosec.pub 1 points 9 months ago

My os is running with a slightly modified us qwerty, which then is mapped through keyboard firmware to a modified us dvorak.

[-] neonred@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Colemak-DH on column staggered ortholinear keyboard. Look.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

ANSI all the way. I get irrationally angry about any other layout 😡

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