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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev

I've used a US-QWERTY keyboard layout my entire life. I've seen other layouts that do things like reduce the size of the enter/backspace keys, move the pipe operator (|) and can't wrap my head around how I would code on those.

What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?

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[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

If I have to work on an American QUERTY keyboard, I have to look for each and every special character. Because our QWERTZ-keyboard has them in other places to make space for all the interesting characters an American keyboard simply fails to offer.

[-] natecox@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I use a sub-40% layout that I love. I wrote all about it here: https://natecox.dev/lets-talk-about-keyboards

[-] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 2 points 1 year ago

As a German I have to admit that the ANSI US layout is the one American standard that's superior to the European ones. That said, I still need some Umlaute and accented letters from time to time, which is why I use the EurKEY layout, which adds all of those keys back and many morek, most of them accessible without having to use a dead key.

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[-] brie@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Used US and JP qwerty, both are fine after a while, but switching can be annoying (mostly I mix up whether " or @ is Shift-2).

The one thing I hate is the fragmentation of the bottom left cluster. I started out on keyboards with Ctrl Fn Super Alt, but now I much prefer Fn Ctrl Alt Super.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I'm columnar-ortho now, but for standard it's ISO or bust. You can keep your shitty enter key and your overly long shift key

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Started on US, now using DE for decades. But able to still use us. Slash position is a plus there.

But Swiss, that's the stuff of nightmares! Oh and mac while usable unnecessarily sucks too imo.

But Swiss, that’s the stuff of nightmares!

Ha, that sounds funny (in a morbid kind of way...). What's so bad about it?

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The British want a stupid as fuck they moved the tilde into a weird spot and you're basically can't do it

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

ABNT2 here, this layout is necessary due to many brazilian portuguese words containing accents. Plus, having ç as a separate key is great. For coding, the \ | key is left to Z and the : ; key is near the right shift, with brackets and curly braces usually around Enter, while ' " is left to 1. It's very good for programming, I'd say.

[-] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I can't even wrap my mind around people who use 60% keyboards and use a bunch of extra function keys let alone anything more drastic

[-] brunofin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I used to use the Brazilian ABNT-2 layout, it's pretty much just a US layout with accent keys that activate like a second layer for some specific keys to display specific Portuguese language characters such as ç á à â ã é è etc. It's surprisingly ok for programming as it doesn't get in the way because you have special keys to activate the 2nd layer and most of them you need to spread shift + something in order to activate them. I'd say it's a good layout.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I use Spanish QWERTY layout and it's... weird for coding.

I'm used to it from my whole life so that's what I use but sometimes brackets or special symbols are weird.

I've always wanted to change to use US-International layout. So I can keep ñ and áéíóú, and also have easy access to coding symbols. But I have never got around it.

Anyhow I still think that whoever designed ISO layouts messed up. We should use US international layout. That's my two cents.

[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I use US-QWERTY but with the pipe/backslash key as backspace, and the key where backspace usually is gets turned into two keys, pipe/backslash and grave (yes, there is a keycode for grave (`) by itself).

[-] dotslashme@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

My os is running with a slightly modified us qwerty, which then is mapped through keyboard firmware to a modified us dvorak.

[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm Czech and also speak fluent German, but I rarely use my native languages on my personal PC, so I got used to the US layout. Nowadays I use US layouts that have my native letters on the AltGr key, my Linux pc has an "American - Czech, Slovak, German" layout like that and at work on windows I use the Czech Programmer layout. However, most of my coworkers use the regular Czech keyboard, even for programing, which freaks me out.

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