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Microsoft stole my Chrome tabs, and it wants yours, too (www.theverge.com)

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[-] 58008@lemmy.world 132 points 10 months ago

Imagine using Chrome in 2024.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

I have found a lot of websites over the last few months acting up if I'm using Firefox.

I have chrome for work and if I switch they work flawlessly. It's small things like menus not expanding or elements not loading.

There's a push on unifying browsers.

I've been Firefox and duckduckgo for years and it's getting a bit annoying. Obviously the trade off is worth it I do not want the big tech products but finding good alternatives is getting hard.

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 10 months ago

Everyone says “problems with websites in Firefox!”

Nobody has examples

[-] flying_gel@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I use Firefox on Linux and FreeBSD for my daily driver.

I was not able to book flights on Thai airways website 6 months ago until I loaded it in chrome/chromium instead.

It's really really rare imo but that's one example in recent history.

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[-] Silentiea@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Not a very big website, but the service my therapist uses for teletherapy doesn't support anything outside of chromium.

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[-] AlexTheAnnihilator@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I couldn't submit a support ticket for id.me (the IRS' stupid commercial partner for Identity verification) when using Firefox, the submit button literally did not work. Worked fine when switching to edge (blegh).

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[-] egerlach@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

Not as much as Google though, so I've been feeling like it's been getting better and better, but it's just a comparative feeling.

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[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 points 10 months ago

https://webcompat.com/

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[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

They talk about it doing this for Firefox too.

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[-] orclev@lemmy.world 93 points 10 months ago

Microsoft Edge is actually good, so I sure hope the team building it isn’t about to resort to more tricks to get Chrome users to use it.

Edge is good compared to IE which was a dumpster fire, and arguably about as bad as Chrome. Both are privacy nightmares and desire nothing more than to harvest your data for ad companies. I trust Google a hair more than I do Microsoft. I don't use Chrome. That should tell you something.

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[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 72 points 10 months ago

There's a word for software that does actions without the user's permission or knowledge.

That word is MALWARE

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 60 points 10 months ago

Sell your soul to Microsoft!

YES, please

not now

Linux and Firefox gang rise up.

[-] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I only use it in a VM and only for Visual Studio which is only for one class. It does nothing outside of that class

My main OS is Linux Mint

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[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Microsoft is the fucking worst with their trick questions and constant nagging.

They do this because they want you to use Edge which steals search results from other search engines.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 43 points 10 months ago

Edge re-installing itself after I've manually taken ownership of its files and purged them from the system 6 fucking times is what's going to finally drive me to abandon windows and go full linux.

I just haven't had the time or energy to rebuild my software stack on a still pretty new to me OS. (emby, the Arrs, Ombi, nginx, and more)

I setup a debian machine a while ago and have been slowly trying to get used to it while migrating a few things, but It's hard when windows is so engrained in most of what I've done on pc.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 16 points 10 months ago

Edge re-installing itself after I’ve manually taken ownership of its files and purged them from the system 6 fucking times is what’s going to finally drive me to abandon windows and go full linux.

This sort of thing is why I finally switched my gaming PC - I was spending a bunch of time fighting to get Windows to do what I wanted that I figured I might as well be doing all that work on Linux.

At least Linux doesn't deliberately fight me. When I have to spend time getting Linux to do something it's because developers haven't gotten to it yet, not because corporate are enforcing their vision of how I'll use my system.

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[-] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

How to prevent this: don’t use Chrome.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 34 points 10 months ago

In this case the problem is MS, they could (or already) do the same thing with Firefox.

So the real fix is not using Windows.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago

Even better tbh

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago

A lot of us could just stop using that garbage OS.

[-] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Problem is there's too much professional software that simply won't run on Linux, things you spend all day in and even if you can get it to run in a sandbox the experience sucks (because it's too resource intensive, otherwise it would get all SaaSy and force you into the cloud), like CAD software, 3D modeling tools, editing...

Monopolistic behavior is monopolistic behavior. MSFT needs a beatdown.

[-] cygon@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Sometimes the switch is surprisingly seamless, though. Autodesk Maya has an official Linux version, Blender is more than competitive now. For photo and video editing, Krita has become the better Photoshop for me and DaVinci Resolve has a native Linux version as well, with the additional benefit of letting me completely avoid Adobe. The ex-Allegorithmic tools also have Linux support and can be bought on Steam even.

On the other side, I haven't had much success running Clip Studio Paint or Daz 3D and a VM is rather frustrating to use (the lag between pen and screen just feels weird).

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[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

plus many USB devices need drivers, and god knows the OEM isn't gonna make them. i.e. steering wheels, stream decks, some audio interfaces. i know there is a software for streamdecks, but i imagine it's not even half of what it could do on windows.

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[-] ironeagl@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

On the contrary, there is a lot of professional software that doesn't run on Windows!

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 10 months ago

The sad part is, knowing the average Windows user, they can probably gain 10 to 20% market share just from people literally not noticing the switch...

[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

guess what, i'm using neither. checkmate.

/lh

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

I seem to recall a federal lawsuit about this kind of behavior with Internet Explorer. Does changing the name of the browser magically nullify the original legal settlement?

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago

The difference is IE was the dominant web browser. Despite having a terrible user experience it had the vast majority of the market share due to being the bundled web browser.

Microsoft is absolutely abusing windows market share to push edge, but it hasn't worked (yet) so they're not getting in trouble for it.

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[-] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I would genuinely like to see Edge open all 848 tabs I have hoarded over 61 Chrome windows. I wonder if it could do it faster than Chrome manages. After rebooting, Chrome reopens, with all my tabs intact, in about 5 minutes. Provided a sanitary shutdown, that is. It takes more like 15 minutes for it to become responsive again after a (rare) crash.

Clearly I have lost control of my life.

And yes, before you get on my case, I am working on switching back to Firefox after using Chrome for the last decade. It just takes a long time to pare down all these tabs.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

Is there a benefit you see for having open tabs instead of bookmarks ready to open when needed?

[-] wesley@yall.theatl.social 8 points 10 months ago

I don't understand the tab hoarder mentality. I can't stand having too many tabs open it makes everyone disorganized and less useful.

My workflow is to open random links and searches in private tabs and then when I'm done with the search I just close the window and they're all gone. I also split subsequt searches up into multiple private windows with a few tabs each so once I find what I need on one search I can close those and have the ones I'm still using ready. If there's something I need to reference later I can move it over to the regular browser window or bookmark it.

Makes it easier to manage and doesn't get out of hand that way.

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

You're thinking about this too productively. I have forty tabs open because I'll get to it later and every time I see my fifty tabs it's a reminder to get stuff done. Then I close a few tabs, look at the other seventy and feel a sense of accomplishment!

It's not because I have a semi-crippling executive function disorder that I pretend is just a curiosity about the world and a love for learning.

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[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 17 points 10 months ago

I'd be shocked if Edge installed itself and take over Firefox data in my linux install. Impressed, but also very shocked.

[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

They can have my tabs over my dead body

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[-] white_shotgun@aussie.zone 10 points 10 months ago

Overreaching pack of degenerate cunts they are

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Laughs in Firefox.

[-] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Nice. So user got auto switched from Google's chromium to Microsoft's chromium? That's almost just a skin. More worried about it stealing Firefoxs's tabs. Specially since I like my addons.

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