Even American cars have spyware. Not sure what your choice is there. At this point, I'll settle for cars with physical buttons for climate and other commonly used controls.

Eh, I've seen all these same headlines on Hacker News. China is a rapidly developing country with a lot more people, manufacturing, advancements, and news than many other countries so it makes sense that there would be a lot of news coming out of it.

I just visited China for the first time during a business trip a few weeks ago and as an American I was impressed. The US media tries so hard to present only the negative that a lot of Americans aren't even aware of all the achievements they've accomplished.

Which is the propaganda? The posts touting Chinese achievements in tech, or the posts saying to beware of the Chinese milestones?

Both.

Agree. Tankies are on the loose, and not just on their own servers

About the privacy issues...

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

You do realise that anything made in the USA or even sold to be used in the western world has the CIA sucking it all up.

Like sure China are gonna spy but let’s not pretend the USA, UK, Australia, and Israel ain’t spying on us all.

So, basically no different than we already have...

An e-civic would be phenomenal...

This just isn't a CCP shill post. Western and Korean companies simply refuse to sell an EV that isn't a luxury car, and Japanese companies seem to be trying to get out of making EVs period. The only one I could name, Chevy Bolt, got the axe last year.

Like, I look like an American Nationalist next to most Lemmy users (you could say I am in a way, but not in the conventional right-wing flag waver way.) But BYD coming to America would fill a need, even if the cars actually suck. Teslas suck, but they still sell, and there are alternatives to Tesla.

Mmm... mag lev...

idk why you're being downvoted, you're absolutely right lol

Chinas EVs are not built to standard and are used in majority to grab cheat the Central Government for subsidies

Though not Chinese, there are companies nowadays offering conversion kits for older, ICE cars. Electric Twingo, here I come!

Considering how much respect China has for western intellectual property... probably. Somewhere.

I've just been looking at those. I can't help but think of the old adage, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is

Straight up if I could get an electric Kei truck I'd be over the moon

It might be, but with the state of EVs in North America (or the auto industry in general), it could also be true.

Not that I'm holding my breath. China is certainly capable of competing with the half-assed efforts seemingly more intended to prove that EVs are bad than actually sell them, but I also wouldn't put it past them to make their cars into even worse spy devices than the other companies have made them into. The only reason I think this might not be the case is they'll get a lot of attention from people specifically looking for stuff like this. But if they include any kind of connectivity features that those security people give a pass on, then future updates can add in the spying stuff later.

I really just want a car that isn't capable of connecting with anything other than a charger, which then only uses the data connection to manage the charging, and payment is managed separately. Even those code readers could be bypassed by just showing that information on the dash display, though I will give a reluctant "this feels like you're just making people spend extra money to do maintenance/repairs" pass for that connection.

I'd prefer a basic connection to my phone, too, like just audio, since a full connection could use the phone to send data home.