F1 rejects Andretti entry for now, but door open for 2028 (www.motorsport.com)

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Such a sorry decision by F1 / Liberty Media. I'd trade Haas, Vcarb, and maybe more for a chance of another team coming in and being competitive.

They're in a position to know more about this than me, but they're so untrustworthy and greedy.

[-] florge@feddit.uk 33 points 10 months ago

That's shit

[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

If Andretti, one of the biggest name in racing backed by GM can't get in. Who can?

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

What a load of fucking piss being shot at their own foot.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Andretti has a lot to bring to the table. There will never be an 11th team.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

There were 11 teams as recently as 2014.

[-] calamitycastle@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The game has changed significantly. No driver lineup changes for the first time in the sport's history. And talented junior drivers stacking up at the gates waiting for a seat

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

The addition of an 11th team would place an operational burden on race promoters

That's the first good argument against them joining that I have ever heard. But I'm sure that's solveable.

Also quite ironic when Liberty has been increasing the pressure on race promoters, and even insisted on promoting the Miami & Las Vegas races themselves instead on relying on race promoters.

[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It is not a good argument. The current regs state every F1 track must have capacity/facilities for 12 teams. Not to mention a big portion of the tracks on the calendar hosted 11 teams in 2016, and 12 teams in 2012.

[-] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Antitrust lawsuit in 3...2...1...

[+] tartan@lemmy.world -25 points 10 months ago

Perhaps an unpopular take, but more teams is absolutely not what we need right now. It’s ludicrous to think that Andretti could just waltz in and be competitive. And what exactly would another bottom-feeder team add to the enjoyment of the sport? Or even a midfield one? We have plenty of both.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

What? There definitely should be more midfield teams.

The only reason why the Caterham, HRT and Marussia teams failed in the last decade was because there was no cost cap.

[-] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

That's a short term view. No team is good in their first few years, minus Brawn. If they entered this year or next they would be able to refine their chassis so they can compete in 2028 when they get GM engines.

The financial argument makes more sense, it's much more difficult to prove that Andretti would grow the business, but with US interest waning it might be the thing that brings people back.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

It’s ludicrous to think that Andretti could just waltz in and be competitive.

Nobody is ever going to be super successful in their first season (BrawnGP built on Honda's work). Of course there is going to be a learning curve. FOM are basically demanding that Andretti-GM run an entire F1 operation in parallel to the official competition, build up talent and expertise, become super competitive without being an engine customer, and wait until the 2028 regulation when the anti dilution fee will be several billions. Joining and being a backmarker for a couple of seasons is fine for every sane person.

[-] darganon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Latifi fucking around at the back of the field caused the most talked about moment in my fandom in 2021, so you're giving up that potential.

[-] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

This really is an unpopular take.

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