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The Anti-Corruption Foundation, which criticizes Putin and is reputed to be the best independent pollster in Russia, just did a poll in Germany & France. It asked: who's responsible for starting the Ukraine war?

Here's Germany's result:

Here are the polling numbers from France:

It appears that both in Germany and France, more people believe that the US is responsible for starting the war in Ukraine than believe that Putin is responsible.

Leonid Volkov of the Anti-Corruption Foundation claims that these numbers show how effective Putin's propaganda is in Germany & France.

This is a laughable explanation of the numbers given that populations of Germany and France are exposed to US propaganda to a far greater degree than they are exposed to Russian propaganda. In fact, much of Russian media is even banned in EU at this point.

One can only imagine what these numbers would look like if the populations of Germany and France were not being bombarded with US government propaganda about the origins of the Ukraine war.

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[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

What is up with those French numbers? That's way more than 100%

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[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Now consider that the U.S. runs NATO and has a similar degree of control over their European vassals.

[-] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

i mean, germany and france know about nazis, so they'd be more knowledgeable that putin is truly "denazifying" ukraine and US is lying

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

isnt the correct answer Petro Poroshenko , 2014 ?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

the only way he got in power was thanks to Vicky Nuland orchestrating a coup though

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network -1 points 1 year ago

Lol what a bunch of window-licking tankies in here. Hoo boy the USA has nothing to worry about if you're representative of the opposition.

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Typical Amerikkkan drivel. The USA should be more worried about their abysmal healthcare, declining life expectancy, terrible education, rabid jingoism, poor quality of life, hungry children, covid deaths, human rights violations, war crimes and crimes against humanity rather than the "opposition" as you put it.

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU

[-] Bart@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

100% facts, now go back to boot licking 😘

You’re threatened enough to spend time taunting us.

Actions tell more than words.

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