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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by kixik@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Hello !

As Mint is based on Ubuntu, I’m wondering if it will follow the missteps (to me at least) Ubuntu is doing to demote *.deb packages in favor of snaps?

Well that based on Ubuntu 23.10’s New Software App Will Demote DEBs (Apparently) post, and its lemmy.ml discussion.

From all ubuntu based distros, Mint seems not to follow those missteps, but I'm wondering if Rhino will do the same. Actually I don't like Rhino created a wrapper package manager which actually gets snap support as well as apt on the same bucket. But who knows, it might be they won't follow ubuntu on this.

Does anyone know?

My interest on Rhino comes from it being rolling release. But I don't want snap to become the source of common/important packages.

Thanks !

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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago

I don't know about Rhino (or what it has to do with Mint), but Linux Mint got some clear stance against snap store.

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Yeap, I just mentioned Mint because I'm aware about its policy, which is the one I'm hopping Rhino also follows, but I can't tell.

[-] pbjamm@beehaw.org 11 points 9 months ago

Mint dumped Snaps in favour of Flatpack. Even then they are clearly labeled as such in the Software Manager. If both Flatpack and Deb are available for the package you can choose which to install.

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Yes, I'm wishing Rhino does the same, so I'm asking if someone knows... Thanks !

[-] pbjamm@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

my mistake. I read your first sentence to mean "Mint followed Ubuntu and would Rhino do the same" rather than "Would Rhino follow Mints lead".

[-] SheeEttin@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago

You would probably get a better answer by asking a Rhino community. But a quick look at the documentation suggests you can choose: https://rhinolinux.org/wiki-rpk.html

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I read about its rhino-pkg, which is just a wrapper as I mentioned. My concern is not about not being able to use each package manager directly, but rather on its packaging policy. Is it to follow canonical/ubuntu decisions? Or will it keep packaging what it as a distro offers to users on deb packages controlled by apt?

Yes, I cross posted it to !rhinolinux@lemmy.ml once I noticed it had a community, though I guess that would be the 1st post ever, :)

[-] Dotdev@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

No, it doesn't use snaps for the packages.

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Will they keep doing that, is there a policy about it written somewhere? Have they expressed something about it in a forum or news, just like mint did at some point when ubuntu started with firefox mess and others. I can't find anything from their web site, and on this reddit post, Does Rhino Linux use Ubuntu mirrors for apt packages?, it seems they follow closely ubuntu's mirrors, and if they do so, whatever ubuntu stops supporting on APT, sounds like rhino will stop supporting on APT as well.

This would be very sad at least for me.

Besides !rhinolinux@lemmy.ml, which is not officially supported by rhino, there are 5 social media mechanisms they support, which I don't have account for neither I want to, and I don't want to subscribe to another mailing list either. Good old IRC is not one of the contact mechanisms supported BTW, neither email (but even if they did, I don't want to subscribe to yet another email list)... Perhaps someone on any of those official communication channels can ask and share what they answer, making a reference to what they answered already regarding repos...

Many thanks !

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 9 months ago

That's cool. Another point for the Rhino.

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