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submitted 9 months ago by gkpy@feddit.de to c/programming@programming.dev

The author seems to be using the engram layout but i would be interested if anyone's tried this with qwerty

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[-] wicked@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago

Putting Ctrl in the home row by replacing the useless Caps-Lock is sufficient for me .

Alt is easily reached with the thumbs and shift is already close enough to the home row, with shift-ctrl using both pinkies.

[-] gkpy@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

i have been running qmk keyboards with capslock bound to esc on tap, alt when pressed as well + evdoublebind to achieve the same for the laptop's builtin keyboard

i do like the idea of not having to come off the home row for ctrl-* mappings in vim

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, this is insanity. Mod-tap has an inherent delay. Using it for anything but the most rare operations (like "shutdown") would drive me crazy. If you can't reach mod keys, unless you're arthritic or have otherwise reduced mobility, change your technique instead of doing this.

The only substitution I do is to replace Caps Lock with Super and Super with Escape, plus standard F key mappings when using a <75% and arrow key mappings on 60%.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago

I've never found pressing modifier keys to be an issue. I'll be mindful of my use today.

I guess the hold to repeat input (of letters) is not used much, so not a significant or noticeable loss when replaced. I'd certainly see false positives and having to type slower as deal breakers.

[-] JustBrian7872@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

False positives happen - especially in the beginning but firmwares like QMK and ZMK have all kinds of smart behaviors that can be adjusted to fit the users needs.

No but that does look interesting

[-] wccrawford@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I think it's pretty interesting. I'm a little worried about how long you have to hold them, how quickly they can be used, and how often they interfere with typing very fast. I think those things would interfere with each other, and I'd quickly find it annoying.

[-] Mesa@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

It's a cool experiment, but:

Over time, the negative feedback from these misfires has trained me to type more slowly and thoughtfully, burdening my mind with uncertainty that impedes my natural typing rhythm and unconscious flow of thoughts onto the computer screen.

I get using the modifiers as a potential accessibility solution. But if you're otherwise able to type on the keyboard just fine, this is easily counterproductive.

[-] pinchcramp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

I do have Ctrl under ä (which would be the semicolon key on US layout, I think). Interestingly, on Mac (with Karabiner) it caused regular mistypes when typing fast, even after a year. On my 12 year old Thinkpad (Linux with keyd) however, I've never found the overloading to be an issue.

I'll probably give the layout in the article a shot. It sounds interesting.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, partially. I’ve used alt under the A key for about 7 years now, and ctrl under the semicolon for maybe 6. I also have ctrl under z as well.

[-] gkpy@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

so you chord z + right hand keys and : + left hand keys?

i think i could get away with just having ctrl under a/: and maybe shift or super under s/l since i have alt under caps lock

[-] JustBrian7872@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have - no problem doing this with qwerty also. It put me on a journey to minimal keyboards. What motivated me was eliminating unnecessary keys and reducing hand movement . Needless to say I really like it.

[-] MouldyC@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago

I have been using home row mods for about 6 months now, and followed this page to tweak timings. I adjusted pretty quickly, and while will still sometimes end up with incorrect inputs, my typing has become crisper (to avoid unwanted mods). I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I really like using my middle fingers for shift.

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