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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

I was enjoying the show but they make it hard to like with this lib shit

Stop trying to make it Star Wars you nerds. I want less "Starfleet sucks but it means well (We're actually talking about NATO, sweaty)" liberal drama and more goofy adventures visiting strange planets and getting weird viruses pls

Go back to stupid shit like Ransom turning into a giant head instead of this dark season length 4D mysterybox shit

Yeah thats right I'm still posting dumb Star Trek rants, you can't stop me. Go ahead and try

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[-] Florn@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

I love Lower Decks but it certainly has this issue where the writers treat career development as the only meaningful character growth for the cast. Like they can't help but write strivers if that makes sense

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Right? I kinda liked that Mariner didn't want a command position.

[-] Florn@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

ugggggh they even tried to frame that as some kind of character flaw to be overcome

it's bad enough they made her related to the captain

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

oh yeah, there's this implication that she wouldn't still be in starfleet if her parents weren't embedded in command, but also she wouldn't be so reckless if she wasn't coddled by them? Kinda the wrong backstory to give your hyper competent, battle-scared soldier.

[-] johnmccainstumor@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

The problem with Star Trek is that it’s what the 60’s thought a utopia would be, and in the 60’s they thought that starship troopers egalitarianism with a little less xenophobia was that. Starfleet is literally the military, if Star Trek was made today the enterprise would be a purely scientific vessel with no guns on it, earth would be past anarchy in terms of societal development (Roddenberry originally wanted humanity to be an ascended hivemind on Earth and Starfleet is regular humans working in service to it).

I don’t like startrek because the definition of utopia has changed a lot and all the aliens are very bad allegories for different races. I don’t like the concept of fictional races in general. It was good for the time though.

[-] Misanthrope@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks. I feel the same way when I re-watch TNG. I could never exactly put my finger on it.

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

If you wanna do serialized star trek, you better be willing to pick up where DS9 left off. I want astropolitical drama that's equal parts optimistic and materialist, goddamnit!

[-] bryan@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 8 months ago

I agree because they are no longer “lower decks”. They are ranking up and it’s dumb.

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah wasn't great. I also don't like that it made fan theories that Nick Locarno and Tom Paris are the same person impossible.

[-] someone@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

You're absolutely correct.

But I'd still rather watch it than any season of STD or Picard.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, Season 4 was my least favorite ngl. The quality of episodes was frankly subpar, even taking the bad season arc aside.

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