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There are laws in place for service workers related to minimum wage. The employers have to make up the difference if tips don’t meet the rate for hours worked. It seems to me that’s not sufficient for the times.

Hypothetically, if everyone were to stop tipping in the U.S. would things be better or worse for workers? Would employers start paying workers more?

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[-] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Sadly I think that might be the only way to make it stop. But it doesn't feel right. If a waiter/waitress is getting a zero dollar paycheck, that means they're making more than some minimum amount. If we stop tipping, they'll be paid that minimum amount. In our effort to get service jobs fairly paid, should we punish them by paying them less first?

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Stuff like more order-at-the-counter or online from your phone instead of a human waiter coming to your table.

This already seems to be happening as companies push to squeeze more and more profits for the shareholders. I was at a local pizza place not long ago that you were forced to scan the QR code and order yourself. They did bring the food out, but that was it. You even had to get your own drink and refills.

Off-topic, but that was also the biggest bill I had from a pizza place in as long as I can remember. It was bumping $100 for 4 of us to eat sub-par pizza and drink water.

[-] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Employers would ultimately see it as not their mess, not their problem. They already pay the minimum wage they legally can, if they wanred to pay their employees a living wage then they would already be doing so. They know that they will lose their current experienced servers, but they also know that there will always be desperate workers who have no choice but to accept the crumbs that are offered.

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

If tip wage doesn’t meet regular minimum wage then employers are required to pay the difference

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

The real irritation is that British Columbia has a tipping culture where pretty much everywhere is asking for 10-25% tip.

Restaurant staff aren't exempted from minimum wage here like in the US, so its pure greed on the owners part.

[-] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

BC budtender. My managers are out-of-touch crazies that enabled tipping (5%/10%/25%) because, 'they feel bad we don't make much money', paraphrased.

That's great, love hearing that from my lake-house owning mega-rich hippie manager, but I've already posted a rant here about how my month's wage of part-time work is easily paid in a day of work with their ludicrous profit margins. 50% on cannabis where I saw 30% in the liquor industry. They can pay me a livable wage, they choose not to.

I have compounding evidence that they're shitty people wearing masks of integrity and compassion and I hate it.

Greed sucks :(

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

When I tip I prefer to do so in cash so they can just pocket it. When I was a dishwasher I remember the good, hardworking servers walking out every night with huge roll of bills, and they would go buy groceries without paying taxes on it.

[-] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Enabling tax evasion doesn't sound like a good thing to me!

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

I also do this most of the time.

Cash is also much less likely to go anywhere but where you want it to go.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

I hate that many places "split tips* because I want to tip my waiter. Not that fuck stain across the room hitting on his table.

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[-] JayBird76@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The minimum wage for servers is around $2 an hour. If we stop tipping, our servers won't make enough money to survive. Restaurants claim that they can't afford to pay a living wage and offer prices people are willing to pay. Yay capitalism.

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[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It would be terrible for servers. Every server will report different incomes, but when I served tables I was paid way above a fair wage. I could never imagine an employer matching the $40+/hr I made bringing food to tables on the weekend.

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