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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Evilphd666@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

The frothingfash snowfakes are already crying sicko-hexbear-woke tears.

Did they not understand at all what the whole Mutants were coded for?

Stan Lee said it didn't matter if they were Black or White or Latino or whatever - they were Born That Way.

Stan Lee said there is no room for bigotry in Marvel. It has always been stories about what's happening right outside.

The X-men is an anti-bigotry story.

Some history about why things needed to be coded and "in the background" or "closeted" that the frothingfash are sorely missing from the past moral panics this shithole country gone through.

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Remind people who screech about "wokeism" or putting things back in the closet of these shameful relics of the past.

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Damn can't believe they made Storm an african woman.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

there's a time travel episode where they literally beat up a segregationist. there's some 90s "racism is over" line about skin color prejudice being quaint, but it's still fun that wolverine beats up the guy and trashes the place.

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

I don't know how I feel about the attempt to adapt the animation style, but I'm kinda excited.

One of my favorite characters is Rogue, and one of my favorite games growing up was X-Men vs Street Fighter.

It's unsurprising though the response that the anti-woke mob is having. It's still funny though, given that they wouldn't see themselves as the Friends of Humanity or other bigoted groups in-series. Marvel held up a (heavy handed) mirror to their beliefs and these folks are complaining about what is clearly a reflection on them.

over-your-head at its finest

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

It's because the anti-woke crowd isn't actually fans of anything or was ever engaged with any stories or they'd know what x-men was about. They're just clout chasers chasing after anything big to whip up drama for racists and get clicks.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

I don't know how I feel about the attempt to adapt the animation style, but I'm kinda excited.

the faces don't look quite right to me

[-] AFineWayToDie@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

It won't be the same without the shitty AKOM animation.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

streaming site for the first run, use ublock originhttps://kimcartoon.li/Cartoon/X-Men
couple comments from two days ago as well: https://hexbear.net/post/1833582?scrollToComments=false

[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Yikes that looks like hot dogshit

[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah it's like the animation from Archer. Seems like a bad fit for X-Men. I'm still extremely excited for it as it's probably my favorite cartoon from my childhood and anything is better than nothing, but I am absolutely disappointed with how it looks. The animation from the original series doesn't really stand up to modern animation quality either.

[-] SkibidiToiletFanAcct@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

got my hopes up with a retro-modern art style like what the Invader Lum remake did, and then we see it's low-frame rate 3d garbage

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[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Did they not understand at all what the whole Mutants were coded for?

Stan Lee said it didn't matter if they were Black or White or Latino or whatever - they were Born That Way.

Stan Lee said there is no room for bigotry in Marvel. It has always been stories about what's happening right outside.

The X-men is an anti-bigotry story.

It's crazy to think that katz still miss this very obvious (and cool) message. I STILL have people complaining about "woke" at my real life comic shop. Luckily those people are sort of becoming fewer as the real-heads know that comics are for everyone. I'm actually really glad that these losers are being pushed out of nerd-shit. I'm rather anti "fanboy/fandom" in the abstract, but I do think it's generally good that fans of comics and stuff are pretty actively make it known that bigots and other losers don't belong. Which is cool.

The rest of this post is just an aside about remakes


I love comics I really do, but I think this sort of nostalgia extraction is just bad for TV, comics, and movies overall. Don't get me wrong taking stuff from the past and doing stuff with it is fine, but just leaning into "Remember when we were able to make good stuff, what if we just re-made that again" is just bad for the medium.

I think there are tons of great X-men stories that could make for great animation adaptions, and I still think the 90's X-men series rules (and even the bonkers plotlines of today's X-men comics still rule), but I think it's just really bad for comics/tv/movies to just so readily inject nostalgia-ium into your eyeballs. I feel the same way with video game re-makes (FF7, RE4, Dead Space) and we all had this issue during the 2010s where everything was a remake of some 80's film.

We already have problems getting new characters, new stories, and new ideas into the medium. I know I'm just overthinking it because it's just content slurry at this point, but goddamn it kinda sucks that of all the creative richness Marvel's catalogue offers it sucks to just release a "HD remake".

Marvel has a lot of stinkers don't get me wrong, but they also have tons of stories and character's that could easily make great animation that could stand beside their DCAU conterparts.

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