Gears of War creator Cliffy B says ‘woke’ claims “p*** me off” (www.pcgamesn.com)

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[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 79 points 9 months ago

That headline is doing him dirty. Makes it sound like he is annoyed about the opposite.

The actual tweet the article is about:

Pisses me off that people say Gears went "wOkE".

These culture wars are out of control. If Gears 3 came out today they’d say the same thing about it – the cast was diverse AF and we had strong, non-sexualized female soldiers.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 9 months ago

The headline is technically fine, we just hear it wrong in our heads. The noun is "claims", that's what pisses him off.

And who would make 'woke claims'? Only one type of person, no one uses it unironically and positively...

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

With "woke claims", in my head it sounded like he was ranting against accusations made by "the woke".

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

That makes sense, but what's the genesis? Someone had to announce or oppose something for it to be a claim in order for him to react to it. And it wouldn't make sense for some woke group to announce or accuse somebody in this context. I'm explaining poorly, but that's the part that I don't understand.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 48 points 9 months ago

Damn I really misunderstood the headline.

Good on him for calling out that bitching about games being “woke”.

[-] emptyother@programming.dev 17 points 9 months ago

From what I've read about him, I thought CliffyB would have been on the "seeing wokes in everything" group.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Definitely pleasantly surprised he seems to have a good head on his shoulders

[-] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago

Any time someone uses the the term "woke" in earnest, I immediately assume they are a bigoted moron.

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's cringe inducing even reading it in a headline.

[-] bblkargonaut@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

The everything is woke or not is out of control, when the real wide spread problem is just bad writing and story telling. I'm just tired of stories with contrived conflicts that occur just to make the story move forward "ie the entire plot of God of war Ragnarok", and established characters making uncharacteristic choices and actions without any development towards that change, "ie Luke Skywalker in the last Jedi and basically everyone in the last season of game of thrones".

[-] 0xb@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

And right he is! Just as often as I see some piece of old media that makes me go 'ouch, that shouldn't have been made or wouldn't have been made today' I also see some strangely progressive or rather inclusive stuff that makes me go 'huh, people would be complaining about forced inclusion and wokeness if this was released today'

[+] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca -9 points 9 months ago

Everything after season 4 of game of thrones was trash, it just got progressively worse each season as D&D had no accountability.

[-] voltaa@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

Everything after season 4 of game of thrones was trash, it just got progressively worse each season as D&D had no ~~accountability~~ material to work with.

I know it's fashionable to shit on D&D for their lack of writing skills, but they weren't hired to write, they were hired to adapt and they were decently good at it. George told them he'd have his material completed by the time they'd have to adapt it and he did not, yet I see very little of the blame attributed to the guy who just kind of gave up on finishing his story.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fair point, but they did change all of their staff and writers after s4 when George left, and George only wrote a few episodes directly. Personally that's a large part of what I ascribe to the decrease in quality (at that time a lot of the dialogue changed, e.g. the Queen of Thorns was a lot less sharp after).

I probably shouldn't assign so much blame directly though.

And George Martin has taken his sweet time with winds of winter, which I think suggests he's lost interest too.

[-] voltaa@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Absolutely, there were many reasons for the decline in writing and I am by no means going to defend D&D or their team as writers, but I don't envy the situation they were handed.

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Everything after book 3 of game of thrones is amongst the worst books I've read, and obviously nothing but a guy stalling for time.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Understandable, every time I bear a bigot pissing and moaning about something being woke it makes me want to rip a horrific fart directly into their face.

[-] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca -2 points 9 months ago

You may wish to read the article.

[-] exscape@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

I did read the article... Why do you think the parent commenter didn't?

[-] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Idk why but my brain automatically filled it to "porn me off" why did they censor piss?

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