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[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 9 months ago

Whoops, there goes that narrative

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago

I can't wait to see how libs will try to spin this as Russian propaganda 😂

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 9 months ago

Nah, that is an easy spin for them. "Russian agents injected him with clotting agents to make it seem like a natural death".
They are working backwards from the assumption he was murdered (don't ask them why Russia would martyr a prisoner) and so any possible cause of death will be attributed to foul play. A meteor could haven fallen from the sky and it would be attributed to the Russian space program.

[-] davel@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 9 months ago

parenti-hands What we are dealing with is an unfalsifiable orthodoxy

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago
[-] ParentiBot@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 9 months ago

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In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

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[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago
[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 9 months ago

They'll spin it into an antivax story for extra points.

Revealed: Navalny was forced to have a Covid vaccine with a booster shot every six months until he died.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago
[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

New RuZZian invention: the blood clot gun, from the same designers of the sonic weaponry that caused Havana syndrome!

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

that's actually an American invention, and it's called COVID-19

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 9 months ago

Libs in lemmy thread are moving the goalposts with lightspeed.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

I love how a lot of them completely missed who Budanov is. Now having this weird moment where they can't dismiss him as being a Russian shill, and now they don't know what to do. 😂

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Thread i linked in my other post here is absolutely hilarious, libs regrouping on the new positions, our hexbear comrades mercilessly calling them Russian bots and libs swirl with confusion.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

It's hilarious how they immediately got invested into the whole Russia did it narrative, and now Ukrainian intelligence chief is coming out saying there was no foul play. I'm honestly curious what Budanov's angle on this is.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Zelensky straight up said he was killed by Putin like "thousands of others" but now Budanov confirms Russian version. Some internal conflict i would say, but possibly a nothingburger since such things does happen failry regularily in fucked up postsocialist bureocracies when rightwingers lose their shit.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah that's true, there is definitely factionalization happening though. I imagine as things continue to unravel militarily, we'll start seeing increased struggles for power within the political system as people will smell opportunity to unseat Zelensky.

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

covid-cool does it again

[-] Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 9 months ago

What a clown. I hope dying in a cold cell from a blood clot was worth the NATO blood money. Dude was a martyr for all about 3 days 🤣.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 9 months ago

You don’t understand, it was a Kremlin backed blood clot!

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