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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Conservatives’ demands for controversial policy additions to spending bills are stalling efforts to fund the government by Friday, nudging the country closer to a partial government shutdown and sparking frustration among lawmakers in both parties.

Congressional leaders failed to unveil the long-awaited compromise appropriations bills over the weekend, blowing through a Sunday target date floated last week and, as a result, leaving members wondering about a path forward just days ahead of the looming deadline.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said House Republicans were responsible for the holdup, writing in a letter to colleagues Sunday that conservatives in the lower chamber “need more time to sort themselves out.” Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), however, dismissed his “counterproductive rhetoric,” saying that new requests from Democrats had delayed the process.

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[-] bradv@lemmy.ca 82 points 8 months ago

“Anything I vote for has to secure our border."

Didn't Republicans kill a border bill like a month ago? And now they're making border demands on a spending bill that has nothing to do with the border?

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 43 points 8 months ago

The border bill they negotiated, yes. Once trump said not to give Biden any wins, the bill they negotiated and were in favor of was suddenly the worst border bill possible. I have talked to people on this platform who had that talking point.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

It doesn't matter because their base will fucking eat up them saying that anyways.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Copy/paste the entirety of the voted down previously agreed border bill into the budget.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 50 points 8 months ago

If I was this bad at my job I'd have been fired several times over.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Not if you had your boss brainwashed into thinking you were the only thing stopping them from being forced to have a black trans woman’s abortion onto a Bible all paid for by their taxes. Which is almost certainly true for some conservative somewhere

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

And then go into politics.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They just want a shutdown on the books so they can all blame Biden for it... even when it's their fucking jobs.

same thing with the border legislation, all the ukraine aid, literally every other thing that has been stalled for months... all transparently being blocked just to avoid giving Biden any "wins".

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

The GOP has no cards to play. They burned them all for irrelevant bullshit. This may be the most insignificant House majority in American history.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That’s what they’ve been doing since September. Now it’s time to pass a damned budget.

Eh. I’m not expecting they will.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

A shutdown is the only thing the house leadership can accomplish that they'll think even might help them. And that's only because it's the only thing they can accomplish by doing nothing.

Unfortunately for them, we've been here before with this house and they aren't going to be able to simultaneously not do their jobs, cause a shutdown, and somehow successfully blame Biden for it.

Sure, of course some will eat up that narrative...but only the people who matter least in November. These are the voters who are already frothing at the mouth to go cast their straight ticket GOP votes anyway. So the only thing the house is doing is firming up support in a demographic where they need it least.

In every single other demographic, a shutdown weakens support for them.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 11 points 8 months ago

This song and dance again. Ridiculous.

At this point, I actually kinda want it to happen. Scratch that - it needs to happen. I think actually being harmed by the government shutting down may be the only way to force many GOP supporters that the GOP is working against their own interests.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Sounds like a very useless speaker, the effect would be similar if there was no speaker.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Sounds like a very useless ~~speaker~~ house of reps, the effect would be similar if there was no ~~speaker~~ house of reps.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Mint the fucking trillion dollar coin, call their bluff and let SCotUS decide if they want to let the Republicans tank the global economy, or if “spending authorization” means what the plain reading says

So sick of these petty games after prior budget agreement through compromise

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Unfortunately the trillion dollar coin thing may only alleviate a debt ceiling fight, spending money to fund things congress has already put in the budget. The debt ceiling has been suspended until 2025 (though many legal scholars hold the debt ceiling is unconstitutional, how can congress allocate money for something but also prevent debt being created to pay for it at the same time? Which directive should be followed?). This is passing the budget and allocating money, something congress is given the express authority over in the constitution.

So if they go past Friday there's a government shutdown. Not good, but not quite the global economic catastrophe of the US defaulting on debt if the debt ceiling was allowed to be hit. The US still is paying off all bonds, etc while a government shutdown occurs.

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