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Israel will push on with its offensive against Hamas, including into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, despite growing international pressure to stop, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday.

Netanyahu has vowed to destroy Hamas after its fighters attacked southern Israel on Oct. 7, killing 1,200 people and abducting 253, according to Israeli tallies. More than 30,000 people have been killed in Gaza during Israel's subsequent offensive, Palestinian health authorities estimate, prompting worldwide criticism and condemnation.

"There is international pressure and it's growing, but particularly when the international pressure rises, we must close ranks, we need to stand together against the attempts to stop the war," he said.

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[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 96 points 8 months ago

"There is international pressure and it's growing, but particularly when the international pressure rises, we must close ranks, we need to stand together against the attempts to stop the war," he said.

Sorry, why is Isreal not an isolated state at this point? If they won't respond to international pressure, and indeed are intent on doubling down because of that international pressure, why even include them in international bodies?

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh dude. I can confirm that for you. I grew up Roman Catholic. I know 80 percent of practicing Christians around the world just want to live and let live.

But the polling for American Christian evangelism is fucking scary. There was a deep dive into Jan 6 2020 and it turns out the evangelical community was key in planning the entire thing. They will tell you with a straight face that Sharia is bad and we should replace the Constitution with the Bible. There was an article yesterday where they proudly said women shouldn't be able to vote.

ChristoFascist is a descriptor, nothing more.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think you're talking about Christian Zionism which was at odds with many Orthodox rabbis who were anti-zionist early on. Crazy stuff

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

Fun fact: there are more Christian Zionists in the US than there are Jewish Zionists.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Why do people never follow "fun fact" with a fun fact?

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 8 months ago

Fun fact! If you befriend crows, they might bring you shiny things, but more importantly, descendants of the crows that you befriend will remember you and ALSO be your friend! Yay corvids, smart birdies!

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

That's what makes it so fun!

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[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

We had a crazy Christian in our office. He was 100% all-in on the prophetic books like Ezekiel and Revelations. He would go on and on about how all the current events in the Middle East, Russia, and the Caucasus were prophesied back in biblical times, and that the Rapture would happen any time now. He literally told me that if he didn't show up for work for a few days it was probably because he'd been Raptured up to heaven, and that's how we will know that the end times are upon us. Our previous CEO was also of the crazy Christian persuasion. He wasn't as loud as Rapture-boy, but definitely into Christian prophesy and numerology and applying it to current events with an eye on the end times. And I don't even live in a bible belt. This is not as uncommon as you would think.

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[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well, you gotta remember that in the Bible, the Jews (then Hebrews before becoming Israelites) are God's chosen people and God aids them in destroying other nationalities all the time in the Old Testament. Hence the 12 Tribes and Israel coming about.

Christians will back the 12 Tribes of Israel because they're the foundation of their religion. You can't have Christianity without accepting God chose the Jews as his people and created the Kingdom of God and distributed it amongst Jacob's 12 sons. If this is not true, nothing after it is either including Jesus as the Son of God, gentiles being accepted, and being judged be the 12 thrones in End Times.

So I think you will find most Christians support it while those that don't simply don't know their own religion too well.

So, yup! Pretty fuckin' scary. But it's not like it's anything new. Lots of people have been killed in the name of religion before us and lots of people will once we're gone.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Not really. The Catholic Church vilified Jews for over a thousand years. There's also the new testament/old testament debate. Basically Jesus 86'd the old rules and that's why Christians don't have kosher stuff.

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[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Great perspective, I enjoyed reading that thank you

[-] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago

Israel has a strong backing from the US. It is part of their Modus op since early 1900s which is to get a strong backer. Earlier, British was their patron and that's how they get their foots in Palestine. Sometimes in 1930s or 40s (if I am not mistaken), they managed to get close support from the US, that became their new patron, and they reduced their dependence to the British at that point and even committed terror campaigned against them so that the British wouldn't be in their way to gain Palestinian territories.

So, why would they care about international pressure/support when the US is with them. It's not necessary, as the international community won't be able to do much as long as some powerful body is always be behind them.

[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago

A couple of details you got wrong Israel didn't exist until 1948, until then the area was the Brit Mandate over Palestine.

After WW1 the UK was granted control of the area from the former Ottoman Syria by the league of nations in 1920, under what was called Mandatory Palestine.

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[-] aleph@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago

To watch the Biden administration continue to pretend that they have any effect whatsoever in preventing Israel's murderous rampage is just embarrassing at this point.

I can't wait to see how they completely fail to hold Netanyahu to account this time ...

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 19 points 8 months ago

Can’t fail to hold someone accountable if you never try to.

The bare minimum would be to follow international law regarding supply of weapons to a genocide.

If you wanna go absolutely wild, you could stop vetoing UN resolutions demanding a ceasefire.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

You don't understand, they're building a dock in Gaza!

The Biden Administration takes no responsibility for the 18 year old Israeli Naval Blockade or any internal checkpoints that may or may not be turning around aid convoys. Furthermore the American administration cannot guarantee any Gazans will be able to reach the docks without Israel deciding they are in fact Hamas because they're conducting civil governance.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Haven't you heard?

Biden said they'll be a ceasefire in a week, it's like "infrastructure week" all fucking over again.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Yep - that prediction certainly aged like milk.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Hey, he's just helping domestic yogurt production...

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[-] bappity@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I'm disappointed to be a part of this species

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