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[-] drolex@sopuli.xyz 61 points 8 months ago

Your favourite movie is absolute garbage and is only liked by tasteless philistines. The plot is obvious, the actors are hamming it, the direction is bland, and everything looks fake and pompous.

My favourite movie, on the other hand, is a masterpiece with a clever scenario, excellent and subtle acting, a work of genius by the director and the technical team. And one of the best soundtracks, too (it's Universal Soldier)

[-] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago

You really have to love the fact that people are getting downvoted in this thread for their own fucking opinion...

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[-] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 50 points 8 months ago

Barbie.

I'm a woman and a feminist. I'm a fan of Greta, and of everyone they cast in that movie.

I was bored for most of it. The parts that were meant to be poignant, I thought completely missed the mark. It was a waste of an opportunity.

I don't understand the hype. Margot is a gem, one of our exports I'm actually impressed by, and I think her unfailing charm won a lot of people over to this. I think most of us would happily watch Margot read the phone book.

But I found the movie to be dull and shallow in its attempts for depth.

I feel bad because most of my female friends really hold it up as something I don't think it is. I keep my mouth shut.

[-] josefo@leminal.space 14 points 8 months ago

I was in the same page as you, but I think I understood it at the very end, literally at the last scene. I understood that the message is something along the lines of "women should be allowed to be just women, without anything remarkable about them". It kinda just tries to make that point, right? Women are just people. They are not objects, nor super heroes. They don't need to be special.

The main goal of feminism is equality right? Well, women today are asked to be a lot of things that men are not asked to, to be exceptional, to break their chains, and fight. To be better than they are now, to change and fight back. And all that is exhausting, sometimes you just need to go to your ginecologist, not change the world. And that brings you happiness and fulfillment. Leave women to be whatever they want to be, don't put on them YOUR expectations, let them be free. Stop telling women how they should live their lives, let them pick whatever they want. They are just humans. Men are allowed to be regular humans with flaws and virtue, women are not.

I think that's the message, or I completely missed the point there lol. I don't think it's not deep. You could argue that maybe it's a message a little dangerous, sure. A very individualistic message, even alienating, but what would you expect from something financed by capitalists. The revolution will not be televised. Personally, I found it a little refreshing, sometimes it feels like we are changing one social mandate for another, but in the end we cannot choose freely anyways, just obey. I gave me one or two thing to think about.

[-] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 12 points 8 months ago

Those messages came through to a degree (good write up by the way) but to my mind they didn't go far enough. Then the comedy was so light touch too.

It all just felt like a first draft of something that might have been hilarious, entertaining and thought provoking. But didn't land any of those things well. So I thought, couldn't it have picked one of the 3 and done then well?

When the credits rolled I just said 'k'. Because I didn't really take anything away from it. Even without the hype for months, my expectation was built more by the cast and director. So I was just disappointed. I wasn't even entertained.

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[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure if was meant to be "deep", I think it was meant to be a bit satirical and a lot of tongue in cheek. I don't think they were setting out to make a masterpiece, but a sharp take on mid life crisis and societys demands of women, including the monotinization of their escapism driven by corporate (men) stooges.

I'm not sure what opportunity was missed in a movie about capitalism utopia as portrayed by glamour dolls.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 8 points 8 months ago

I’m not sure what opportunity was missed in a movie about capitalism utopia as portrayed by glamour dolls.

Set ups for the punchlines that seemed to come out of nowhere, even a hint as to why having Barbieland go back to a matriarchy was better than something balanced to follow up on the whole Kens being second class citizens. Not that I wanted to spend more time on the Kens, just like a line or two that addresses the weird situation that they explicitly set up.

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[-] theworstshepard@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 8 months ago

Superhero films

I'm a massive fan of suspending my disbelief in a fantastic fantasy world, still have no interest in superhero films.

They're so incredibly predictable, I can get the same from the trailer as watching the film.

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[-] 0xb@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Oh boy.

Everything everywhere all at once.

And I did like it to a point but absolutely don't see it as the phenomenon that was presented as. I saw it as a good film that lacked nuance and subtlety, instead of leaving stuff for the viewer to discern it rather just loudly announcing with bright signs 'This is profound, we are very artistic'. While the quirkiness and comedy were fun, it always felt to me like if marvel had suddenly decided to make an indie film, with all the good and bad that carried.

Obviously I was shunned by everybody else so what the hell do I know lol.

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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 27 points 8 months ago

Skyfall. The whole film rests on a basically omniscient villain, which made it boring as fuck.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I hate it when a big franchise or series ends up making the entire story revolve around the personal life of the protagonist.

For me the appeal of Bond was this unknown secret agent uncovering some big bad plot from some bad guy we knew little about art the start. I want it to be about uncovering the conspiracy and finding a way to stop it against all odds.

I do not want it to be able Bond's relationship with his mother (or mother figure).

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[-] makyo@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

A Quiet Place

It is so full of holes and strange decisions I could barely get through it and was shocked it was so well reviewed.

[-] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 18 points 8 months ago

I enjoyed it. But man, get yourself some condoms.

Also, he totally didn't need to die. Unnecessary.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago

Oh man. This movie. I can handle some plot holes. But I cannot believe that the entirety of the world (or, let’s just say the entire United States of America) didn’t once think, ”Hey, these things can hear SUPER FUCKING GOOD, maybe we can somehow use that against them?”

And that nail in the stairs? Come on.

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[-] carbrewr84@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago

Napoleon Dynamite. Tried watching it a few times with friends who insisted it was funny. I just found it more annoying than funny.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

That’s fair. My experience with the movie when I was watching it was similar. When it was over my wife and I looked at each other and we both were like, “what the fuck did we just watch?”

The next day we found ourselves quoting the movie and laughing our asses off about it. It seems that we needed time to process it in order to appreciate it.

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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago

Lord of the rings. Over the years i tried watching it again and again but i either fall asleep of stop caring and do something else halfway through.

[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

Not to be that guy, but are you watching the extended editions? I used to also not enjoy the movies until I gave the extended editions a chance. Much better pacing

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I always thought the theatrical editions would be easier for first-timers, but I've never tested that theory. Interesting to hear that you felt the opposite.

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[-] Zeer0@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago
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[-] SlicingBot@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Gangs of New York.

I love Scorsese and I usually don't mind how long his films are, case in point Killers of the Flower Moon. But Gangs of New York is not only too long and weirdly self indulgent, but whatever Cameron Diaz is doing in her role is... Not great and makes me sad every time.

Edit: I realize I inverted flowers and killer in Killers of the Flower Moon.

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tropic Thunder.

I liked the RDJ gimmick, but the rest was really dumb. Everyone else likes it but i even bought a copy based on terrific reviews and ended up giving it away. So it was pricy too.

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[-] hakase@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Big Lebowski. It's got a perfect combination of plodding, boring plot and insufferably obnoxious characters that makes it a physically painful watching experience.

It genuinely confuses me that people like The Fifth Element. The plot is just batshit insane, and it suffers from obnoxious character syndrome just as much as Lebowski does.

Thor: Ragnarok is by far the worst Thor movie, and is in the top 3 worst Marvel movies. It's an absolute travesty of a film that not only ruined the character of the Hulk to the point where he had to be effectively erased as a character going forward, but turned Thor himself into a Gimli-esque laughingstock, and is also just neither funny nor entertaining. But, then again, neither is anything I've seen by Taika. Edit: Actually, that's not quite true. Here's a really hot take for y'all: Love and Thunder is the good Taika Thor movie. It wasn't great, but it was miles better than Ragnarok.

On that note, any movie (or show) where the entire second arc/B-plot is a useless side quest that either fails or does nothing but waste the audience's time. See, for example: Thor Ragnarok, The Last Jedi, Andor.

Tarantino movies are really overrated, but I wouldn't say I dislike them.

Edit: Ooh, thought of another one. O Brother Where Art Thou would have been an enjoyable movie if it hadn't tried to act like it's an adaptation of the Odyssey. As someone who's pretty familiar with Homer, it just infuriates me every time I try to watch it.

Edit2: Someone mentioned Skyfall, which has now reminded me that as a huge James Bond fan, I hate all of Craig's Bond films (except Casino Royale) with a fiery passion, to the extent that I don't even consider them James Bond movies (they're "James Bourne" movies at best), and I don't ever include them in my rankings of the series.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 16 points 8 months ago

Both The Big Lebowski and O Brother Where Art Thou are directed by Joel and Ethan Coen and and it sounds like you might not like their style.

I'm upvoting you for sharing your opinion even though I disagree 100% as all three movies you mentioned are fantastic at what they set out to do, but not for everyone.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

That was a hard upvote. Tarantino is my favorite director. I've only been lukewarm on one of his movies. And even then, I didn't dislike it. Respect your opinion though.

Also, my two favorite movies are Pulp Fiction and The Fifth Element.

Question: How do you feel about Edgar Wright? Specifically Hot Fuzz and Baby Driver if you've seen those.

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[-] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

Citizen Kane is a horrible, boring movie.

[-] makuus@pawb.social 20 points 8 months ago

It was his sled. It was his sled from when he was a kid. There, I just saved you two, long, boobless hours.

[-] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I get this reference

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 19 points 8 months ago

I don’t think that’s a particularly new take. Lots of people find it boring, but recognize its importance because it’s the first place you ever see a ton of filmmaking techniques that are considered standard today. Welles basically invented modern filmmaking with Citizen Kane.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

That's the thing. Citizen Kane was a fantastic, groundbreaking film. So innovative that bits and pieces were copied and remixed over and over until they became trite and predictable. Now it just seems trite and predictable.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago

TV Tropes used to call this the Seinfeld is Unfunny effect, but has since renamed it to Once Original, Now Common.

The basic idea being that things that are groundbreaking at the time eventually become copied so much that people looking at the original don't understand why it was such a big deal. My favorite examples are The Matrix (absolutely blew my mind in the theaters, but my kids think it's just ok) and Golden Eye for the Nintendo 64 (I couldn't believe how incredible it was to zoom in with a sniper rifle and see people moving on the other side of the map, but playing it today it looks laughably bad).

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[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

No Country for Old Men. I was just bored through the whole movie.

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[-] Kben@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

The fifth element,i really cant understand its popularity.Plus it makes me want to punch Chris tucker in the throat.

[-] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Plus it makes me want to punch Chris tucker in the throat.

That's the point.

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[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

The new Dune is so artificially slow and full of itself. The old one with Picard and Mr. Mayor is so much more watchable for me and I genuinely love it. The new Blade Runner did the same thing, being slow for the sake of being slow does not make it deep or philosophical it just makes it boring

[-] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 8 months ago

I felt the complete opposite. I've read all the Frank Herbert books multiple times and loved how in-depth they were. Dune part one was much better than part two because the first part spent so long setting up the universe and exploring different factions which I found really cool. Part two was like "well, all the hard work is done now so we can just have all of the action". No! The action is the worst part! I'd much rather 70% world building 30% plot.

As an aside, I also like how the technology was very rarely explained. Just the shields and the stillsuits I think. It makes it feel so much more natural and realistic because these characters live all their lives with weird floaty lamps and ornithopters and lazbeams, so why would they explain any of it to us?

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[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

Godfather. Omg so boring. I fell asleep every time i tried to watch it

[-] 1337admin@1337lemmy.com 13 points 8 months ago

I never understood the boring argument, and I've read it quite a bit online. Every scene has a ton going on.

It starts with a banger wedding outside while the don hears about somebody's daughter being savagely raped. Theres also a short conversation about Fontaine and the movie exec being a dick. Bam, hagen is in Hollywood. You wonder what the family has up their sleeve, bam horse decapitated head in the bed.

Business meeting about drugs, sonny goofs, wonder how that will go - assassination attempt. Hagen held captive. Luca sleeps with the fishes. Don in hospital, another assassination attempt thwarted, scene full of tension the entire time.

Michael decides he's in the business now, they plan the attack, then bam middle of the movie you have an incredibly long tense scene of a drive and dinner that you know is going to end in violence.

I mean all of that is just in the first half of the movie. It's buildup action buildup action repeat. This is not some slow character study alone... It's a master class of character study with plot plot plot.

It's almost ridiculous how much plot there is to be honest. After all of the above there's Carlo abusing Connie and sonny beating the shit out of him. There's Carlo doing it a second time as a trap and sonny getting fucking annihilated by gunfire. Michael escapes to Sicily, gets married, and his wife is murdered in a car bomb meant for him.

The cherry on top is Michael murdering the heads of the other families in one of the best climaxes of all time

Sorry for the rant. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I just don't understand the boring argument, this is not a slow movie lol

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[-] CosmicApe@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not a movie, but I really couldn't get the hype around Evangelion.
The end credit music was fantastic though

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[-] nevetsg@aussie.zone 8 points 8 months ago

Spider-Man Across the Spider Verse.

It was too long with too much going on. I thought it was about to end twice. But no, it kept on going... I loved Into the Spider Verse though.

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[-] FUBAR@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago
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[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 7 points 8 months ago

The Lighthouse

There’s a difference between being subtle, metaphorical, and artistic vs. being boring, confusing and inexplicable. Also, the dripping cum was just gross.

It’s like a few influential “smart” people claimed to like it, and everyone else just jumped on the bandwagon.

[-] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 8 points 8 months ago

I enjoyed it for its ferocity. I think there was a parallel to be drawn with lighthouses - as the viewer you're being assailed by relentless waves breaking against you.

Not everyone's cup of tea no doubt. But I thought it was good. Muttered wtf a few times while watching it but I think I'll probably watch it again.

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