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Oregon, California and Washington pass bills raising the minimum wage (cardinaltimes.org)
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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oregons raise is because of a bill passed several years ago (eventually) tying the minimum wage to CPI with adjustments based on area. It went up by set amounts yearly. 2023 was the first year that was outside those set amounts and actually uses CPI.

https://www.oregon.gov/boli/workers/Pages/minimum-wage-schedule.aspx

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Is it possible that minimum wage could go down in this system? I love that it's tied to a metric taking all of the politics and guess work out of any increases.

[-] alilbee@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It's been a while since I've looked at the language of the bill itself, but I believe it can only go up. The language on the site trends that way too.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Makes sense, there isn't really a thing such as deflation. Pretty sure the last time it happened we had a recession so bad we called it a depression...

[-] alilbee@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'm far from an economist, who would likely argue that wages should go down in certain times, but I think the political argument would be that nobody wants to be in power when wages go down, and we would expect that if wages were kept as is, you should expect compensating inflation to eventually catch up to that. Again, complete layperson here, so take that with a grain of salt.

[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Modern inflation is roughly a myth used in fear mongering propaganda and by apologists to excuse abusive behaviors. I'm not saying that there is no inflation, it exists and functions as an economic principal, but what is called inflation is decoupled entirely from the academic definition. Under academic inflation, a business who did not change prices should see a reduction in overall value, and price increases should even out to a neutral state where the value remains constant. If you ever hear "inflation" being used to excuse a price increase or a shrinkflation behavior and the company starts boasting about how much profit they are makeing or they start executing stock buybacks or give larger bonuses to executives, they are lying. Inflation had nothing to do with it. Also, if inflation is really the cause, when deflation occurs, prices should reduce to maintain the valuation, but again, it rarely if ever does.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

Same with Washington State, its been slowly going up since 1999 when it first broke with the Federal minimum. 25 years..

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

$15.40, Washington at $16.28 and California at roughly $16

"Roughly $16"? Is there something beyond cents that makes California's new minimum wage hard to state clearly?

[-] Briguy@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Certain counties have different minimum wages. So it's difficult to give a hard number for the state. But they're all in the neighborhood of $16

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Sure, but what is the minimum? Do counties get to undercut the state minimum wage? If so, what good is the state minimum wage? There is some minimum.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

It varies by county and also by profession. $16 is bare minimum, counties can't go lower. Most counties are $16 and change, some as high as $19. Specifications for higher minimums are made in some counties for hotel workers and businesses on hotel grounds. https://www.pacificpayrollgroup.com/blog/california-state-local-minimum-wage/

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/minimum_wage.htm

The minimum wage in California, effective January 1, 2024, is $16.00/hour for all employers. Fast Food Restaurant employers, effective April 1, 2024, and Healthcare Facility employers, effective June 1, 2024, will have a higher minimum wage. Starting April 1, 2024, all “fast food restaurant employees” who are covered by the new law must be paid at least $20.00 per hour.

[-] Prefontaine@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 8 months ago

A lot of loopholes

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

It applies to only certain jobs. There's some variance in CAs minimum wage depending on if you're a tipped server, fast food worker, or something else.

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile Idaho right next door is still at the federal $7.25 minimum wage. How Idaho border town min wage jobs stay staffed I have no idea.

[-] mibo80@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

Probably employs the same people Donald Trump is calling animals and wants kicked out of the country, or worse. And when they succeed those towns are going to crumble.

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

They just hire illegals ez

[-] mellowheat@suppo.fi -4 points 8 months ago

I hope economists follow this up. The Chicago school theory states that this should help only minimally and at worst increases unemployment which leads to all kinds of bad things.

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