Both have their moments, but yeah, not great. Oddly enough, it's about time for me to cycle through them again.
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Ill have what she's having!
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His name was Robert Paulson.
I didn’t recover from the end of Nemesis until Picard s3.
Same here. I'm so happy that was made.
Nemisis just should have been Tom Hardy and Patrick Stewart standing next to each other and then someone saying HOLY SHIT NO SERIOUSLY DOES THAT NOT LOOK LIKE A YOUNGER HIM?
fin
Where they really fucked up is that we saw too much of his face.
He does not get enough credit for the chemistry he had with himself in venom lol
Those lips are too powerful to be seen full on.
Hmm, I usually see Nemesis pitted against Insurrection. Although I enjoyed both (thanks to lowered expectations) the latter tagged the cake as feeling like a not particularly well produced, but extra-long episode.
V and VI are the ones I get mixed up, but I remember being more disappointed in Undiscovered Country than Final Frontier. Perhaps it was just compounding disappointment at that point....
V and VI are the ones I get mixed up, but I remember being more disappointed in Undiscovered Country than Final Frontier.
Wat.
You know most fans think VI is way, way better than V, right? In that ranking (in which Galaxy Quest came in 7^th^, by the way) The Undiscovered Country is considered the 3^rd^-best, while The Final Frontier is considered the 2^nd^-worst.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but man, that's an unusual one.
VI is on the frozen planet? With the Shakespeare?
I remember V being 'meh' and VI being off the rails, but I may not have seen either since they came out.
Edit: maybe I should watch one, or both.
Conventional wisdom confirmed.
A fair assessment of those 2 TNG era films.
Star Trek 5:
Star Trek 6:
TNG ended with All Good Things... I'd watch Star Trek V on a loop Clockwork Orange style for a week before I willingly sit through one of those TNG movies again.
First Contact is fun, if only for the brief appearances of the EMH
and Adam Scott
I didn't realize that was Adam Scott! Huh.
His likeness also shows up in Lower Decks
Interesting! I don't know anything about Lower Decks other than the SNW crossover.
Caught that the other day! I wonder why they didn't reference that more somehow in parks and rec!
Never got the hate for STV to be honest. It has crummy effects and some badly placed humour, but it has a good heart and strong Trek-style themes. Also, some seriously iconic lines.
Nemesis, I get. Hands down the worst movie out of the franchise. Dumb boring action garbage featuring the most egregious and unnecessary Troi mind-rape incident of all. Left a bad taste in my mouth for 18 years.
I'm glad Nemesis is finally getting the hate it deserves. When it first came out it got a lot of support and I couldn't understand why.
The TNG movies are worse than any TOS movie. Maybe First Contact can be considered better than Final Frontier.
Granted I’ve only seen them both once a piece, I don’t dislike Nemesis quite as much as I disliked Generations or Final Frontier.
I could follow what they were trying to do with Nemesis and I thought the ending was neat. Final Frontier left me with a “what the hell was that…?” sensation I just can’t seem to shake.
Are they really the worst? Even after 2016?
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