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Who can forget when the former Fox News host Megyn Kelly declared in 2013 that Jesus, like Santa Claus, “was a White man, too,” and “that’s a verifiable fact,” a remark she later said was meant in jest.

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First, while the classic Nordic Jesus remains a popular image today in some churches, a movement to replace the White Jesus has long taken root in America. In many Christian circles — progressive mainline churches, churches of color shaped by “liberation theology,” and among Biblical scholars — conspicuous displays of the White Jesus are considered outdated, and to some, offensive. In a rapidly diversifying multicultural America, more Christians want to see a Jesus that looks like them.

But in some parts of the country, the White Jesus never left. The spread of White Christian nationalism has flooded social media feeds with images of the traditional White Jesus, sometimes adorned with a red MAGA hat. Former President Trump is selling a “God Bless the USA Bible” with passages from the Constitution and Bill of Rights — a linking of patriotism with Christianity that reinforces a White image of Jesus that is central to Christian nationalism.

Blum says the image of a White Jesus has been used to justify slavery, lynching, laws against interracial marriage and hostility toward immigrants deemed not White enough. When Congress passed a law in the early 20th century to restrict immigration from Asia, Southern and Eastern Europe, White politicians evoked the White Jesus, he says.

“One of the arguments was, ‘Well, Jesus was White,’ ‘’ Blum says. “So the theme was, we want America to be profoundly Christian or at least Jesus based, so we should only allow White people in this country.”

The MAGA movement uses the image of a White Jesus to weaponize political battles, he says, pointing to signs at the January 6 insurrection displaying a White Jesus, sometimes wearing a red MAGA hat. To Blum, some Christian conservatives see a White MAGA Jesus as “an anti-woke symbol.”

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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 52 points 7 months ago

Imaginary mythological creatures can look however you like.

[-] ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Which is why Korean Jesus is best Jesus.

[-] Red0ctober@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago
[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

There's no way that dude fell three times while carrying the cross

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

The cross could be nailed to HIM!

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 7 months ago

He felled three trees to make new crosses after he reduced the last one to splinters by accident.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

It was three lunges, Jesus ahead of his time, , they just hadn't heard of leg day back then.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

You don't want to run into a biblically accurate Jesus though. Those things are scary.

Stupid sexy Jesus

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago
[-] ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Ethiopain Jesus has nice eyes

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Ethiopian Jesus looks like an emoji

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 7 months ago

1: Big believer in personal fitness

2: Minds his business. He's busy with Korean shit.

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[-] Skkorm@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

In what world would there be a blonde guy in the middle East, what a crazy ass conversation to keep having.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Unbelievable this question is even being asked and just goes to show how little thought people engage in when it comes to religion. If he existed at all of course he would look like any brown/dark skinned person living in the area thousands of years ago.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 7 months ago

I could imagine the Romans bringing some blonde soldiers from Germanic tribes though.

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago
[-] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

this was posted by the actual Jesus so I think this is it

[-] redfox@infosec.pub 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I like the recent estimates of his appearance. This artist renders him even less good looking than probably most imagined when they think of someone from that region of the world, which makes me believe it's closer to appropriate.

Jesus wasn't a rock star. In Christianity and the new testament, God didn't portray himself in any way other than meager and a bit of a communist. That's the beauty of part of the story.

Edit, I think Jesus would have been easy to put on the no fly list, or walk by without a second thought, which is a challenge to our ways of thinking.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago

He was a dude from Jerusalem. Yeah, he was brown, and looked like… a dude. Because he was a normal-ass human being like everyone else.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 23 points 7 months ago

You can imagine him as a corgi if it makes you feel better

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Aww Jesus wants tum tum time

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Dammit now the crucifix is gonna be asking for belly rubs at dinner.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 7 months ago

Now I understand Christianity, thank you.

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[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

Welp thinking about Jesus' butt wasn't on my list today, but here we are I guess.

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[-] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I grew up heavily Pentecostal/Evangelical Christian - speaking in tongues, demons are real and possess people, God strikes down the wicked and regularly works miracles, etc. My whole childhood I was surrounded by hundreds of people who did not care about proof. They actually believe the universe is 6,000 years old, that God killed every person, plant, and animal on dry land in a Flood that covered even the highest mountain (~9km) and more nonsense.

So believing that Jesus was literally an impeccably groomed, attractive blue-eyed white man with a bodybuilder's physique in the Classical Era Middle East is well within the limits of these people's credulity. They believe things because they are told to do so from childhood, not because they've done their homework.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

TL;DR: White Christians can often be ignorant racists who stubbornly cling to wrong ideas because they were told it makes them special.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There's a deacription of what he looked like in the Bible (and newsflash: he isn't white). But he would have to actually have existed for that to matter.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

A majority of academics agree that Jesus existed and Jesus Denialism is regarded as a fringe theory by almost all academics

Jesus definitely existed. The real question is how similar his teachings were to the modern teachings of the churches.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Right, but he was actually called "Brian" and always denied being a holy man.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The only evidence the person existed is the Bible, and the Bible isn't much proof of anything. There is no actual, tangible archeological evidence of Jesus' existence as even an ordinary person.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

While there's no "archeological" evidence yet as that would involve literally finding a relic of Jesus or his followers from the short 10 year timespan that his ministry existed, there's enough other literary and historical evidence to believe he definitely was a person, and the link I sent goes through all of that under the "reception" tab.

I haven't found a single professor who still adheres to a Mythicist/Denialist view.

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[-] SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If Jesus was born as a blonde haired blue eyed viking spawn in what is now fookin Palestine, where the Sun is a deadly laser and the only whites are the occasional albinos, that would've been the miracle instead of Mary's "virgin birth".

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

He was literally middle eastern so yeah.

[-] corroded@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I seriously doubt that "Jesus" from the Christian bible actually existed. Most likely a man with the same name existed and eventually morphed into a folk hero of sorts. That being said, the individual whom the Jesus myth is based on was absolutely from the Middle East. Even Christians won't argue this. He had to have been some shade of "not white."

[-] RatBin@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

A man by his name existed. But remember we're talking about middle east, some 2000 years ago.

But wait a second, there is also this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Madonna Among christians, the cult of dark skinned Mary statues existed long before conservative american christians were a thing. I have seen a couple of these statue and you can see them immediately. Important, notable, detailed and often precious. They sit in their niche, silent.

Another suggestion is that dark-skinned representations of pre-Christian deities were re-envisioned as the Madonna and child.[3]

I think the whiteness is often associated with purity, but in many cases that isn't the whiteness of the skin colour (see the aformentioned examples). Even in the mediterranean are as a whole skin tones can be varied, often confusing the american representation of what is black and white.

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Melville spends a chapter comparing the different interpretations of whiteness in Moby Dick. This article talks about that, but I recommend reading the chapter if you get a chance.

[-] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

In Monterey CA, there are angel decorations that go up every year at Christmas. The designs were originally painted in the 50s and the artist made them brown skinned, inspired by Native American artists' depictions of angels.

[-] Conyak@lemmy.tf 8 points 7 months ago

How is this even a question? Of course he was.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago

I have never met a white Jesus, they have all been varying shades of brown.

[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Korean Jesus is the best Jesus.

https://youtu.be/hhtOGkUqVTU

[-] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

He busy doing Korean shit

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeees.

Serious answer: It doesn't really matter - not only because religious organization is a cancer that should be removed from society, but also because at this point Christianity has splintered, evolved and reformed beyond idolatry of a guy from the desert.

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