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and I can't really describe how. Their is more like a they with an r on the end.

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[-] Rottcodd@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hadn't thought about it before, but on reflection, I do too. And I wouldn't be surprised if most people do.

Exaggerated a bit for effect, it would be more or less:

There = thehr

Their = thayr

They're = thay-r

"There" is just simple and straightforward with a pure short 'e' sound and no particular stresses.

"Their" has more of a long 'a' than a short 'e' sound, and a bit of stress on the vowel sound.

"They're" also has more of a long 'a' sound and it's pronounced just a fraction longer than in "their", and there's a very slight pause between the vowel sound and the 'r'.

Huh... learn something new every day.

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I do it the exact same way, and was about to type that out myself but you said it much better. It's funny the nuance to language that exists.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess you're a native speaker. As a foreigner, I can only nod my head. We know.

They're/their/there are completely different words. They mean different things and they're pronounced ever so slightly different, and you'll get you hand chopped off by a centimeter ruler if you do it wrong.

"There" is clearly longer than "their".

"There" is one tone. "Their" is rising.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It differs by region and dialect. The English speaking world has wildly different pronunciations, even within relatively close proximity.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best explanation

[-] Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly I thought the distinction was just American but you're right, I think English uses slight intonation for context on nouns/verbs/prefixes but in a way we don't always write down or care about.

[-] Carter@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

This is why I never understood the confusion with which spelling to use. Just say it in your head.

[-] heretoseetitties@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

You should use the proper spelling. Pronunciation does not equal meaning when reading.

[-] Carter@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago
[-] heretoseetitties@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

Oh you're agreeing with me! I thought your optional point was arguing against.

[-] Haus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

The most bizarre one for me is pronouncing the plural of woman as "wimmin." Can't explain it, can't work around it. It is what it is.

[-] daddyjones@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why is that bizarre? That's how you're supposed to pronounce it.

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 7 points 1 year ago
[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it’s conditioned by word stress. “There” is usually the object of a phrase (and therefore stressed), while “their” usually modifies a following noun that gets the stress instead.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It's ther (or thehr, if that makes it easier to hear in your head) theyr and theyur

Seriously. There is a shorter word when pronounced, their has that sharp I/y sound, but cuts off right after the r. They're is pronounced with the they-are slurred like all contractions should be.

[-] Peepolo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

As a native english speaking, i tried to write the slight difference in the way i say them both (I didn't realise i said them differently until today) but I couldn't quite put it in writing so i deleted my comment 🤣

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Atlantic Canada calling:

  • There: Th-air
  • Their: Thur
[-] SkaraBrae@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How do you pronounce "they're"?

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I had a friend from australia who pronounced every vowel of a word distinctly…. so consecutive vowels like ei or ea or ou, somehow she’d enunciate them distinctly.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

This is probably a regional thing. In Alberta I don't think I have ever heard someone say these differently.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

There is a subtle difference for me. It's hard to describe and I am not a linguist, but it's like my mouth is a little bit tighter when I'm referring to the possessive their.

[-] daddyjones@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's a US thing? I just tried it and I pronounce them exactly the same.

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