321
submitted 1 year ago by IsoSpandy@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I am not an atheist, I genuinely believe that God exists and he is evil, like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Granite@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yet the first words there say

Misotheism is the "hatred of God"

so that's a different thing.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

The term you’re looking for is Evilgodism

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

A toddler who fries ants with a lens isn't evil, though.
At least not more evil than most toddlers.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Isn't the god supposed to define what good and evil even is, and wouldn't therefore any monotheistic god be "good" by definition?!

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

That's what people say, but in practice people have their own ideas and just project them on to god.

[-] Kelly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's only one (narrow) definition of a god.

To take a well known example, is Loki "good"?

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's the definition monotheism employs though, and Loki is from a polytheistic pantheon.

[-] Kelly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

All good, The comment I replied to has been edited to specify monotheism after I wrote my reply.

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yea sorry for that, I had the same thought as you right after I posted my comment.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

There is no reason to believe that a higher power cares about the concepts of good and evil to begin with. Taking a walk through the woods seems like a morally neutral activity, but all of the insects you crush along the way might view you as evil for what you do to them.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Somewhat off-topic, but there's this line of thought, which multiple Christian thinkers have come up with throughout the centuries, called the Ontological Argument. It basically tries to prove the existence of the Christian God with only pure logic, no axioms involved.

Proofs without axioms don't exist elsewhere, so take the following with a massive grain of salt, but basically it goes:

God is a maximally good being. Existence of a maximally good being is itself good. Therefore, God must exist.

Aside from this being circular reasoning, it also involves a massive axiom: The existence and definition of good vs. bad.

But with your point, we can advance the argument even further:

Defining what's good is good.

That way, we get twice the circular reasoning, but no axioms anymore. 🙃

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[-] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My limited experience with going to Church of God places indicated to me that they hold this belief, but I do jot know the term for it. They didn't pray to god, they prayed to Jesus, specifically. And cried for him. And thanked him. And apologized to him. And so on. All to Jesus, not god, who are apparently different.

The idea of the Trinity is not the same across all "Christian" religions, see Arianism for example of an early split.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd never heard of them, but I looked them up, and I don't see anything in their declaration of beliefs to suggest that they think that God is bad or evil. They just seem to have an emphasis on praying to Jesus, but they seem to have pretty standard Christian belief that God and Jesus and the Holy Ghost are all parts of the same being.

I am not sure how aligned all of the different Church of God denominations are in their beliefs, but the main website for them seems to be pretty standard Christian stuff.

[-] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

You're right, I just mentioned them as an example of splits about exactly what has gone on with the differing beliefs about trinity interpretation. I don't recall that they believed in an evil god. I do recall that some interpretations have other feelings and operate as such.

The Arians and the Church of God are probably not really connected to what op is getting at. I'm definitely not a theologist haha! Maybe I should stay oiy of this...

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Adaptus Ministorum

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

They certainly didn't start out this way, but the terms gnosticism and manichaeism are now both used loosely for this depending on the context.

[-] Kindness@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] InformalTrifle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There is no god, but if there was one, the only logical conclusion is that he’s evil. So whatever you call it, your religion is the most sane one I’ve ever heard about

load more comments (6 replies)
[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

God is real [points thumbs to self] and he's evil as fuck.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2024
321 points (93.0% liked)

Asklemmy

48585 readers
1966 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS