Microsoft is trying to convince Windows 10 users to upgrade with full-screen prompts : technology

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 129 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I have never received one of these screens with this One Neat Trick:

I disabled the TPM in UEFI settings.

Beautiful.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Aww your poor wittle pc is unhealthy! It just needs some rest and some fluids.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

It's cool while it works. But these options are not going to be provided forever in newer hardware. Recent example I saw is the absense of AHCI option in new laptops (you now need additional drivers just to reinstall Windows manually). We need to keep developing software solutions to software problems.

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[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 101 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm not a marketing person but maybe they should try making an OS people actually want.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They do this every 4-5 years. Nobody is ever bothered enough to cause a problem for Microsoft's bottom line.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 30 points 7 months ago

I don't remember anyone being excited for a version of Windows since 7. 8 and 8.1 were universally hated, a lot of people clung to 7 until they absolutely had to upgrade to 10, and now they're clinging to 10 as long as they can. I seriously doubt there's an upcoming release of Windows people will genuinely like and want, because there's no money in doing that.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Yeah, but even before that...people were only excited about 7 because of how much of a dumpster fire Vista was. And prior to XP (which Vista replaced), most people didn't care about OS versions at all.

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[-] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 69 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Got to say they convinced me at last and I finally upgraded.
...to linux

Never.Going.Back.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 23 points 7 months ago

Yep. The other day it rewrote a registry key that prevented these pop ups. I'm out. Debating which Debian distro to go to now.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Debian is the slow reliable. Go with mint for easy, Debian for completely foss, pop! OS for eaay nvidia drivers, or Ubuntu for.... Uh.... Ubuntu.

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[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 52 points 7 months ago

If only they didn't intentionally give up compatibility with 250 million PCs by introducing artificial CPU requirements, then adoption rate would be higher...

But blackrock and vanguard (they control ~15% of Microsoft, Intel, AMD) really needed to increase their profits by selling more CPUs...

Also it didn't help that until October 2023 the taskbar was completely broken and unusable, people like me forbid the installation of the os in the company for that reason alone

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 18 points 7 months ago

the taskbar still broken and unusable.
icons straight up disappear when you switch virtual desktops using the touchpad, tray icons sometimes don't show up, messing with some things can cause an explorer crash

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago

Are they spamming people with this on computers they know don’t meet system requirements?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You better believe they are. I get it about every other month, and my laptop doesn't meet those requirements.

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 48 points 7 months ago

“We tried asking. We tried begging. We tried bullying. We even tried tricking people into upgrading. We tried everything short of actually making a usable OS!”

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

I understand how it is possible for an OS to interrupt one's use of one's own computer to beg for money or to install spyware. I don't understand how such an OS would still have users.

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[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

Can Microsoft be any more annoying?

I had to laugh when I searched for "Vivaldi" in Edge on a new installation and Bing said "There's no reason to switch to a new browser!"

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

There are tons of reasons. Their insistence that there are no reasons is a good example of a reason.

[-] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago

How about when you have to update your machine and it goes through the "setup" which is just disguised ads for services like microsoft 365? That's pretty annoying.

[+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

You think the average Windows user cares about security or updates? I've worked in IT for over a decade and I can tell you that the average person doesn't give a damn.

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[-] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 29 points 7 months ago

Microsoft has 18 months to convince folks to upgrade.

They'll be lucky if I boot my Windows 10 partition between now and 18 months.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

They have been doing this for at least a year now. They have one that tries to trick you into thinking that it was already updated and you have to finish setting it up. It takes several clicks on tiny hidden buttons to escape it. There's no option to tell it to fuck off forever. They'll pester you again a couple weeks later.

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[-] AcidOctopus@lemmy.ml 22 points 7 months ago

I see Linux in my future, as I just don't have the cash for a new rig.

I have to be careful though, as it's my family PC, and the rest of my family aren't going to tolerate much of a learning curve. It really needs to just work out of the box.

Considering Zorin OS. Hopefully I can get it on my SSD next to Windows so I can dual-boot for a while to test the water...

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

You'd be better off installing Linux on another drive if you're going to dual boot. Windows loves to mess with the EFI boot partition which ends up borking the Linux bootloader.

If your family does more than just browse the web, there's definitely going to be a bit of a learning curve, it's possible though. I converted my 73 year old father to Linux after he used Windows for 25 years.

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[-] Redx@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

I took the free upgrade. Then after a bit I updated my bios and it killed my license. Microsoft wouldn't fix it and said I changed my hardware so there was nothing they could do. Still pissed off about that.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

They could convince me to update by making windows 11 not suck.

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[-] anothermember@lemmy.zip 20 points 7 months ago

I'm used to hearing about how a lot of people are put off of Lemmy because of all the "Linux" people on it, "people pushing Linux", "elitists", etc.

And yet I see something like this and think "are we not supposed to give good advice?".

If is the kind of thing you want for your computing then go for it.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 7 months ago

My computer doesn't meet the requirements so I guess I'll just not.

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[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 7 months ago

I see they're getting desperate. One year and half to eol, and still, according to statcounter, 69% of the world uses windows 10.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 14 points 7 months ago

I would have upgraded if they didn't include the UI changes. I don't know why Microsoft keeps trying to make these big UI changes given that they have a built-in audience of power users that have optimized since XP.

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[-] casmael@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think now that I’ve moved most of my photo editing to my Mac and steam has propelled gaming on Linux into ‘very reasonable’ territory, it might be time to actually just ditch the ol’ windows. Only issue is I have an nvidia gpu atm unforch.

[-] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

I’ve fully moved to Linux with a 3080ti. Only non functional feature is HDR but that’s mostly a Linux issue

I went with PopOs and have had a pretty smooth experience

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

At least in the EU until now no such PopUps, but it's hilarious, that I can't update to W11 in a 3 years old Laptop, at least not without cheats, only because my Graphic Card, AMD Radeon with 2+1 GB isn't in the MS list, not for other reasons.

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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

If corporations would just end their love affair with exchange online and fucking outlook, maybe windows would go away

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[-] thirstyhyena@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

What's new? This has been going on since the launch of W11.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I'll upgrade once Win11 is out of open beta. Almost once a week they patch in a bug that's inconvincing users, I don't have that issue with win10. I wish MS would spend that energy on bug fixing and QoL UI elements. Win11 has less taskbar options, you'd think they added them by now...

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 12 points 7 months ago

Pretty much the only thing I use my PC for is gaming so it really sucks that I can't just dump them for Linux...

I don't want some games. I don't want to have something I've been hyped about be out of reach for God knows how long just because Linux support is crap as the market share is so low, but man do i hate Microsoft...

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 20 points 7 months ago

Gaming on Linux is really not as bad as all that unless you play a lot of games with invasive anti-cheat; which honestly, even if you never try Linux and stick to windows, I'd recommend avoiding or at least having a separate windows install for. I'm not a fan of having to install a rootkit on my computer that constantly monitors everything I do just to prove to some mega-corp I'm an honest player (especially considering how poorly even those work to stop cheaters).

I'd highly recommend anyone upset with microsoft to at least setup dual boot with one of the popular gaming specific Linux distos and trying it out. Even if you did a few years ago, it has really come a long way in the last few years.

[-] Nanabaz2@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Beside we-know-which games that use a root-kit anti-cheat, which games you think doesn't work on Linux or work terribly or straight out not work on Linux on first-day?

I don't play those and I don't own them on Steam. Out of 600+ games I own on Steam, everything literally run without me touch my terminal once.

Unless you don't think proton is good, then you might be mistaken somewhere. It's straight magic

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Because of proton it’s not perfect but it’s damn close these days. And that means that linux support is rapidly increasing with linux marketshare. And when all else fails, I keep a windows partition just in case

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[-] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago

Installed Zorin OS the same day I got the full-screen prompt.

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