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submitted 1 year ago by Pluto@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

It's good.

I liked it.

But none of that famous American sport that we all love.... Baseball! The game of America!

baseball-crank

(Idk, I'm making fun of American jingoism now.)

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[-] davel@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never played any of the games, but I saw this four year old video recently, Bethesda NEVER Understood Fallout, which explains the premise of the first game, and how every game thereafter failed to understand the premise. Dollars to donuts this show doesn’t, either.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, but Fallout 1 and 2 are pretty liberal and so far Fallout 3, New Vegas, and 4 so idc

Besides, it's Jonathan Nolan's baby, essentially.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I didn't find Fallout 1 to be that liberal, is it? I mean sure it doesn't exactly bust out a material analysis of history, but I thought it was a pretty scathing critique of american culture and capitalism.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

So is Fallout 3 and 4.

It's not that different.

But there's no socialism. It barely exists.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Socialism is kind of like, if it existed there'd be no plot in Fallout. That's almost textual in New Vegas and kind of implied in 1?

We'll ignore 3 and 4 cause they're dead above the brainstem, just nostalgiajerking, but the Fallout games are essentially about the folly of the current western world. We never get to see Fallout's Russia or China, so it's possible they built cool socialist societies and got owned anyway. Very plausible even, hell perhaps getting rekt by the People's Republic of China in the Alaskan oil war is what caused the US to throw a nuke tantrum in the first place! With how much red-scare propaganda you see, perhaps the subtext is "the US rejected socialism wholesale as in our timeline and it went BAD"? Fallout 1 is primarily a critique of particularly midcentury America and its warlike habits, which are unending. It has some affection for the consumerism inherent, but mostly as kitsch, the game is pitch black in tone. The games have pretty much always treated anyone looking to return to the old ways with scorn.

The new societies in the Fallout games I basically take to be westoid mindsets repeating their stupid mistakes cause they never read theory. Fallout 2 has an exclusive walled-garden society with slave labour again, and of course in New Vegas you get to explore liberal democracy, (cringe) nascent fascism, (cringe) techbro libertarianism (cringe) or no central gubmint at all. Conspicuously missing are any sort of anarchism or socialism (though the Followers of the Apocalypse were once planned as anarchists) because then the plot would not happen, you can't really effectively explore all this stuff if based commies just roll over everything. There's no socialism cause it would effectively fix postnuclear society, and Fallout is about exploring the failings of current western ones, I think.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Eh, fair, fair.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Your thoughts?

No spoilers.

Also, I'm dead-set on liking this series and giving it a chance so nothing... overly negative.

Like, be... idk, soft on this series? I'm still forming my opinion but i quite liked the first episode.

Thanks!

[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I'm three episodes in and I think it's absolutely great. Can't wait to watch more.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm just starting the fourth episode and it's great.

[-] hexthismess@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I'm a couple of episodes in and I was prepared to hate it like most video game adaptations, but I was pleasantly surprised. I've been enjoying the show so far.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Same! Just finished it.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Also, we really need to make a "television" comm.

[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

It's fine. I appreciate the integration of game elements to the point of the main plot even having side-quests. It's also a very Jonathan Nolan show.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and I happen to like Jonathan Nolan.

[-] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I know absolutely nothing about the lore of Fallout other than.... 1950s aesthetic and nukes happen. I know there's some vault thing made by "Vault Tec" or something and I know what ghouls are. That's about it.

I like it so far. I'm interested in watching the rest and seeing where it goes.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Awesome!

My other celestial companion... What say ye?! @Ceres@hexbear.net

[-] Ceres@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

haven't played any of the games or watched the show unfortunately, but great to hear its good and see friends excited

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Awesome. Thanks.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

its not bad, though its not good. slop for the piggies at least

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

It's great, imho.

I'm on the fourth episode right now.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Fallout 4 has a baseball guy for you ✨

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago
[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I guess nobody else is really bothered by the giant plot hole where Lucy figures out Monty is a raider with the Geiger counter on her PipBoy even though literally everybody else in the entire vault was wearing a PipBoy for the whole wedding.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Nah, it's not a plot-hole.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, they're pretty sheltered.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, after watching episode 2 the whole biden-forgor just... doesn't feel like a plot hole anymore. Yes, they are that stupid. That is the joke.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It gets better.

I loved this show.

[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Nope not in the slightest.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

hexbear doesn't care about holes

only hogs Hoggers

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