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Only Trump co-defendant being held in jail: ‘I showed up before the president’ (www.nbcnews.com)

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Harrison Floyd was denied bond on Friday. A judge said he was a potential flight risk.

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Floyd, who's charged with racketeering, conspiracy and influencing a witness, turned himself in Thursday afternoon, ahead of Trump's 20-minute appearance at the jail that evening. Prosecutors allege that Floyd, the former leader of Black Voices for Trump and the only Black man among the defendants, was part of a scheme to pressure election worker Ruby Freeman into making false statements. Freeman had been falsely accused by Trump and his allies of election fraud.

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

He's in jail because he attacked the FBI agents who served him his subpoena.

Richardson said one of the reasons she was denying him bond on Friday was a pending case for allegedly assaulting a federal officer earlier this year.

According to an affidavit in that case, Floyd attacked a pair of FBI special agents who served him with a federal grand jury subpoena at his Maryland home for special counsel Jack Smith's election probe.

The affidavit says Floyd body slammed one of the agents as they were leaving and repeatedly bumped him while yelling expletives at him. He was charged with assaulting a federal officer.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago

He added that'd he'd requested a public defender and was denied one. The judge told him he did not qualify for one.

This seems wrong. Why wouldn't he be "qualified"? It's there an income limit? Seems that anyone should be allowed the option to not go into debt defending themselves.

[-] PerfectedInterest@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Most states only provide a public defender for indigent clients who make less than a certain amount. If you are above that threshold, you will have to come up with the money for a private attorney. Funny how Trump had these clowns do his bidding then bailed on them when they needed help. I guess he has time to reconsider his actions while he sits in jail.

It’s also important to note that the judge mentioned him assaulting two FBI agents as part of the denial of bail. Even with a lawyer, he may have been denied bond.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

If I were one of these guys, I wouldn't accept a lawyer Trump paid for. One of the defendants in the docs case just flipped because the lawyer Trump paid for told him to lie on the stand

[-] ABluManOnLemmy@feddit.nl 22 points 1 year ago

One qualifies for a public defender only if they cannot afford their own attorney. Those with the means to afford their own attorney are usually, like in this case, denied a public defender.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Huh, yeah it seems there are guidelines based on the federal poverty rates.

[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

He actually compllained that flying in a defender would cost him 40 to 100k. As if there were no lawyers in Georgia.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

i guess he thinks he's special

[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure he is thinking at all. I mean, absense of rationale thinking got him in this mess in the first place, didn't it?

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i think you're right.. he's just caught up in thinking he's an important little badass for 5 minutes or something.. rebel without a brain ..

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The public defenders office explained to him that he wasn’t qualified.

The judge just confirmed that he got that explanation.

[+] Enigma@sh.itjust.works -11 points 1 year ago

He’s about to find out what the justice system means for black guys. The only defendant denied bail? Ha yeah, dudes fucked.

The judge just feels like he’s lying. They should be having an evidentiary hearing to determine if he does have the means or not. You usually have to fill out a financial form for the court.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

99.999% of the time, it would be about him being black. But this is that rare exception. The guy has money and can afford a lawyer, he just doesn't want to. And he's being denied bail only until he meets with the judge for his other case. He's the only one of the people indicted who tried to fight FBI agents. The rest are still dumbasses, but not that particular flavor of dumbass.

He fucked around. This is the find-out stage.

[+] Enigma@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago

If you think they won’t treat him differently just because he has money, then you’re mistaken. I was wrong in why he was denied bail, I admit that. But having money means nothing to the justice system when you’re black.

[-] norbert@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Situations like this really demonstrate the concept of intersectionality. The justice system will absolutely treat him differently because he has money. He will likely be treated poorer than a white person with money but he'll unquestionably be better off than than a black man with no money in the same situation. If nothing else when he inevitably goes to prison he'll have money to put on his "books" to buy things from the commissary. To say having money means nothing ignores decades (lol centuries) of evidence. There's no war but the class war.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying he won't be treated differently because he's black. All I'm saying is that I'm this particular instance, being denied bail is 100% predictable when you get into fights with FBI agents, and being denied a public defender is 100% predictable when you have plenty of money to afford a lawyer.

What happens from here? I don't know. But what's happened so far is exactly what you'd expect to happen with anyone in his position.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Tell that to OJ

[-] Treczoks@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago

Well, he should see that he does not drop the soap in the communal shower...

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

ATLANTA — Only one of former President Donald Trump's 18 co-defendants in the Georgia election interference case has been jailed as a result of the charges.

On Friday, defendant Harrison Floyd was informed during his initial court appearance that he'd be spending more time at the Fulton County Jail since he was considered a potential flight risk.

Floyd, who's charged with racketeering, conspiracy and influencing a witness, turned himself in Thursday afternoon, ahead of Trump's 20-minute appearance at the jail that evening.

Richardson said one of the reasons she was denying him bond on Friday was a pending case for allegedly assaulting a federal officer earlier this year.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis had set a deadline of noon Friday for all of the defendants to surrender.

The last of the defendants to turn himself in was Stephen Lee, an Illinois-based pastor who allegedly enlisted Floyd to help pressure Freeman.

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[-] Lurk99777@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The delusion of some people. Welcome to the US justice system.

[-] androidul@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

is this Thierry Henry?

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