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Whether you're really passionate about RPC, MQTT, Matrix or wayland, tell us more about the protocols or open standards you have strong opinions on!

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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 159 points 7 months ago

RSS. It's still around but slowly dying out. I feel like it only gets added to new websites because the programmers like it.

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Theres quite a few sites that still use it and existing ones in the Fediverse have it built in (which is really cool). But your right, the general public have no concept of having something download and queue up on a service rather than just going to the site. And the RSS clients are all over the place with quality...

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

90% of the bullshit mass emails at my work could be an RSS feed.

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[-] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

WebSub (formerly PubSubHubbub). Should have been a proper replacement for RSS with push support instead of polling. Too bad the docs were awful and adopting it as an end user was so difficult that it never caught on.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 96 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Markdown. Its only in tech-spaces that its preferred, but it should be used everywhere. You can even write full books and academic papers in markdown (maybe with only a few extensions like latex / mathjax).

Instead, in a lot of fields, people are passing around variants of microsoft word documents with weird formatting and no standardization around headings, quotes, and comments.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 7 months ago

Markdown is terrible as a standard because every parser works differently and when you try to standardize it (CommonMark, etc.), you find out that there are a bajillion edge cases, leading to an extremely bloated specification.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 25 points 7 months ago

Agreed in principle, but in practice, I find it's rarely a problem.

While editing, we pick an export tool for all editors and stick to it.

Once the document is stable, we export it to HTML or PDF and it'll be stable forever.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 20 points 7 months ago

Man, I've written three novels plus assorted shorter form stories in markdown.

There's a learning curve, but once you get going, it's so fluid. The problem is that when it comes time to format for release, you have to convert to something else, and not every word processor can handle markdown. It's extra work, but worth it, imo.

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[-] aarroyoc@lemuria.es 95 points 7 months ago

IPv6. Lack of IPv4 addresses it's a problem, specially in poorer countries. But still lots of servers and ISPs don't support it natively. And what is worse. Lots of sysadmins don't want to learn it.

[-] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

Am sysadmin, can confirm I don't wanna learn it.

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[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My university recently had Internet problems, where the DHCP only leased Out ipv6 addresses. For two days, we could all see which sites implemented ipv6 and which didn't.

Many big corpo sites like GitHub or discord Apperently don't. Small stuff like my personal website or https://suikagame.com do.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 19 points 7 months ago

github is so stupid with that, it's actually funny

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[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 7 months ago

Lots of really large sites are horribly misconfigured. I had intermittent issues because one of the edge hosts in Netflix ‘s round robin dns did not do MTU discovery properly.

[-] BaldProphet@kbin.social 16 points 7 months ago

IPv6 is great, but NAT is quite functional and is prolonging the demise of IPv4.

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[-] x3i@kbin.social 73 points 7 months ago

Unified Push.

Unbelievable that we have to rely on Google and co for sth as essential as push messages! Even among the open source community, the adoption is surprisingly limited.

[-] technom@programming.dev 31 points 7 months ago

Nobody knows about unifiedpush. Last time I checked, their Linux dbus distributor also wasn't ready. There has to be a unified push to get it adopted.

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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 69 points 7 months ago

IPv6

I mean, why the hell is IPv4 still a thing??

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[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 7 months ago
  • IPv6, needed for modern Internet not to collapse, would make many other important things easier. Easier to become an ISP, to selfhost, to build P2P networks, etc.
  • GNU Taler, a payment protocol just look at it go: https://101010.pl/@didek/111934952208145427, or just imagine building a payment terminal of a Raspberry Pi
  • Matrix, to unify chat, conference and calling apps
  • some self-arranging darknet protocol becoming a norm like I2P, GNUNet or Yggdrasil, so we could have a backup when mass Internet blockage happen
[-] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago

I really hope matrix gets native VoIP. I saw like 2 years ago it was in beta, haven't kept up with it though. I'd also really like voice channels like discord so my friends and I can replace discord but it seems like matrix isn't interested in being a discord replacement

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[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 61 points 7 months ago

Do Not Track

Such a simple solution for the cookie banner issue. But it prevented websites from tricking users into allowing them to gather their data, so it had to go.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

Nobody was going to honor that. That's just giving them an extra bit of data to track you with.

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[-] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 55 points 7 months ago

RSS (RDF Site Summary or Really Simple Syndication) It is in use a fair amount, but it is usually buried. Many people don't know it exists and because of that I am afraid it will one day go away.

I find it a great simple way to stay up to date across multiple web sites the way I want to (on my terms, not theirs) By the way, it works on Lemmy to :)

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[-] mukt@lemmy.ml 53 points 7 months ago

odf/odt/ods

.md

SimpleX

Matrix

OpenPGP

Last, certainly not least... ActivityPub

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[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 46 points 7 months ago
[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 22 points 7 months ago

Call me old fashioned, but I still call it Jabber.

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[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 42 points 7 months ago

IOT devices shouldn't connect to wifi. ZWave or zigbee is much better suited to IOT stuff, but it seems to mostly get adopted in very limited, locked down proprietary shit like Hue Lights.

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[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 7 months ago

LaTeX. As someone in academia, I absolutely love it. It has some issues like package incompatibility, but it's far far better than anything else I've used. It's basically ubiquitous in academia, and I wish it were the case everywhere else as well.

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[-] barbara@lemmy.ml 32 points 7 months ago

Matrix... it's on such a good path I can't complain. Adoption could be faster but it's alright.

I2p, although I have no idea if the lack of adoption has not a very good reason.

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[-] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
  • Communication: Matrix
  • Browsing: I2P
  • Communities: ActivityPub / Mastodon
  • Software Forge: Fogejo + ForgeFed
  • OS: Linux
  • Money: Monero

Since they meet at least one of,
if not all of the following:

  • Decentralized / Federated
  • Sensorship resistant
  • Privacy respecting
  • Open source
[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] Kata1yst@kbin.social 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I was actually surprised to find out QUIC is fairly close to being default.

Wikipedia

HTTP/3 uses QUIC, a multiplexed transport protocol built on UDP.

HTTP/3 is (at least partially) supported by 97% of tracked web browser installations (thereof of 98% of "tracked mobile" web browsers), and 29% of the top 10 million websites.

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[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

I wish Microsoft Office would use the .odf standard by default. Or, failing that, it'd implement its own published .docx specification correctly, so other office suites can be compatible.

[-] halm@leminal.space 26 points 7 months ago

That'd be nice of course. Personally, I just wish everything Microsoft would wither and go away.

[-] technom@programming.dev 16 points 7 months ago

The entire purpose of Microsoft standardizing OOXML and implementing it wrongly in Office was to make other office suites irrelevant. ODF was already standardized and countries would have adopted it if MS didn't do the same with OOXML. They stuffed the ISO with members supporting them to do it.

And now that OOXML is a viable standard, they implement it wrongly so that other office suites can't be compatible with MS Office without a lot of extra effort. Any incompatibilities with MS Office will be considered as the fault of other office suites by the general public and government officials.

Expecting MS to do what's right for the customers is putting too much faith in their nonexistent sense of ethics.

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[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 24 points 7 months ago

I2P. Current protocols should go through it

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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Remember SOAP? Remember XML-RPC? Remember CORBA?

Those were not very good.

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[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 23 points 7 months ago
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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

peer to peer, i would be happier thitking that every time i open somo application, i'm helping it, like i2p

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[-] vort3@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago

Others have said already, but XMPP and RSS. Also, nobody mentioned NNTP yet.

I wish everything was accessible by NNTP and we had better NNTP clients. NNTP is like RSS but for forums (so, Lemmy, Reddit, or anything where you could reply to posts). Download for offline reading, read in your client, define your own formatting, sorting, filtering, your client, your rules.

If Lemmy was accessible via NNTP, I could just download all posts and comments I'm interested in and reply to them without any connection, and my replies would get synced with the server later when I connect to WiFi or something.

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[-] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 months ago
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[-] robolemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

RFC 2549 is such an important improvement over RFC 1149. Everyone should adopt the updated standard.

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[-] sag@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago
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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

I wish people used email for chat more. SMTP is actually a pretty great protocol for real time communication. People think of it as this old slow protocol, but that’s mostly because the big email providers make it slow. Gmail, by default, waits ten seconds before it even tries to send your message to the recipient’s server. And even then, most of them do a ridiculous amount of processing on your messages that it usually takes several seconds from the time it receives a message to the time it shows up in your account.

There’s a project called Delta Chat that makes email look and act like a chat app. If you have a competent email service, I think it’s better than texting. It doesn’t stomp on the images you send like SMS and Facebook do, everyone has it unlike all the proprietary services, and you can run your own server for it that interacts with everyone else’s servers.

Unfortunately, Google, Microsoft, etc all block you if you try to run your own server “to protect against spam”. Really, I’m convinced that’s just anticompetitive behavior. The fewer players are allowed to enter the email market, the less competition Gmail and Outlook will have.

As much as I like ProtonMail too, unfortunately their encryption models prevents it from working with Delta Chat. I’d love to see Proton make a compatible chat app that works with their service.

I made an email service called Port87 that I’m working on making compatible with Delta chat too. I’d love to see people using email the way it was originally meant to be used, to talk to each other, without being controlled by big businesses.

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[-] sgtlion@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Honestly, IRC was a very functional, easy, free, low-resource and privacy friendly chat protocol and I don't really see why it got left behind. If you wanted image/ file support that could really be implemented client and/or server side.

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