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[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 204 points 6 months ago

With how aggressive Microsoft is becoming with ads, services, and data collection they could at least make Windows itself free.

But no, you still have to pay £100+ per license to have the pleasure of putting up with this crap.

[-] Vendul@feddit.de 48 points 6 months ago
[-] Robin@lemmy.world 83 points 6 months ago

Piracy is not a real solution to the problem. Microsoft allows these sorts of things to exist in the background because they would rather lose out on some sales than lose market share.

[-] Inktvip@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago

Kinda the same thing as winrar. They rather have consumers get used to it so the companies they work at have a higher chance of buying licenses. That's where the real money is.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Ding ding ding!

Like how Adobe puts minimal effort into protecting from cracks for their software.

They'd much rather have little Jimmy and a million others pirate PS at home and get used to the workflow, so that businesses pay out big recurring fees for Adobe's tools, which they will if that's what everybody knows how to use.

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[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 137 points 6 months ago

Every generation has this moment, where they learn to hate Microsoft (or Micro$oft). Then, 4% install Linux, 6% buy a Mac with half the RAM for twice the price; and everyone else to keeps complaining.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 29 points 6 months ago

With me it was when they killed off my favorite browser. I'm now using the reanimated bushy red corpse of it.

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[-] TheChurn@kbin.social 97 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Linux and Nvidia really need to sort out their shit so I can fully dump windows.

Luckily the AI hype is good for something in this regard, since running gpus on Linux servers is suddenly much more important.

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 months ago

Its mainly Nvidia's shit. The only reason Nvidia is caring about Linux now, is that is the platform AI models use.

[-] Kostyeah@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

The only thing keeping me on windows is the Nvidia GPU in my laptop. If Linux got actual dynamic GPU switching support I would delete windows and never look back.

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 months ago

it has that? You can use the nvidia utility to enable that on most any distro, or just use Pop_OS! 24.04 when it releases.

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 89 points 6 months ago

As much as I like Linux, and use it almost exclusively on desktop/laptop, every time I see something like this I am reminded how much I hate the fact that Apple of all companies is about the last bastion of commercial and consumer operating systems who isn’t trying to derive the bulk of their revenue from advertising.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 37 points 6 months ago

Even Apple is falling. Their ad business (yes, they have one) makes billions and is the fastest growing part of the company. The app store is already quite ad-riddled, and the other parts of iOS are geared to get you to subscribe to all the Apple services.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 26 points 6 months ago

Yes they just derive it by keeping the Windows/MacOS duopoly in place and monopolizing communication channels.

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 81 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is what happens when they know you won't leave.

"But muh games...and Linux is too difficult and weird"

I say to those: well then you've made your choice, didn't you? It's going to keep happening, like it's been since the 90s.

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[-] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 70 points 6 months ago

There has to be a point of diminishing returns for them with this kind of behavior. This is just so aggravating.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

I'd wager they are hoping to entrap as many people as they can on the platform, with their TPM restrictions, and store restrictions, and account restrictions, that sunk cost fallacy will keep the overwhelming bulk of people stuck in their web.

I'd also wager that enterprise probably doesnt have any of this bullshit

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago

Can confirm, I run enterprise at home and have yet to see some of these shenanigans I've seen posted.

But there's still enough I hate about Windows 11 that I'm slowly transitioning to Linux and then just running windows in a VM for things there aren't good alternatives for.

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[-] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 6 months ago

Ads have evolved into a cancer that is just growing and growing, making everything around them worse.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 39 points 6 months ago

Ads have always been a cancer.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 28 points 6 months ago

Not exactly. When the webmaster you knew put a banner in the corner of their site with ads from one and the same source, in one and the same place, not popping up and not bothering you, it really felt fine. I even felt the urge to click that and see where it leads.

Remember also Opera free version with that ad banner.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah. I used to run a website back in the very early 2000s that a local bicycle seller/repair shop used to pay me to have a little static banner for. It was just an image, that's it. No tracking, no malware, no silly animations or covering content, etc. It was unobtrusive.

Did I get a huge amount of money? No. But it paid for maintenance, and a bit to spare. It made me feel like the effort I was putting into the site wasn't wasted. It was relevant to the site content (cycling club in my town) and so was probably an effective advertisement.

Ads aren't automatically evil, but the way they exist now definitely is. I wouldn't dream of browsing the web without Firefox+Ublock origin.

The unbridled greed of companies has made me go out of the way to remove them all from my life. If they had been more restrained, I'd have happily accepted some ads as being the price I pay for using the web.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

Another day, another piece of enshittification by MS, another reason to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds, if you can spare a few minutes.

[-] menixator@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 6 months ago

At this point I'm convinced that the new windows feature announcements are just ads for linux

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago

I don't see any enshitiffication features and ads in Windows 11 that Lemmy and tech news are reporting. I wonder if it's because I'm in the EU.

[-] Kroxx@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago

They may have not implemented it yet. I see a lot of things reported that they are still testing.

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[-] psud@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

Now that Linux can run pretty much all the games I play on the PC I don't think I'm going to have much use for windows at home anymore

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 36 points 6 months ago

I want my power button to cut off the power instantly. I want my log off button to be instant. Add any delay and I start pulling cables!!!!!!!!!

I got to go, lock this computer, so I can do a thing! Oh shit, its not locking... fuck... Security says I can't leave a unlocked console.... POWER!

Adding needless friction is terrible! Don't do it.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

At work, when I did desktop support, the number of people who would just hit their power bar when they left every day...

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[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've held off on saying it until now (I haven't), but now I'm going to call it (again):

This is the year of the Linux Desktop.

(It feels like someone influential at Microsoft is trying to protect my reputation and force my prediction to come true.)

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 35 points 6 months ago

What I love the most about Windows is just how easy it is to find all the user settings I need to change. And I super appreciate how they configure things that work so perfect for me. It's like I never need to make decisions of my own, they can read my mind. /S

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[-] feinstruktur@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 months ago

Autodesk! All the others! Can you now, goddammit, for the sake of the mental health of your customers, start building your tools on platforms other than this crap? PLEASE? I mean I'm seriously considering building a parallel system running Linux for all my other office needs and just touch my Win-pc to run my CAD. I hope MS will continue in this way and ai-mercialize their OS more and more so hopefully the software providers will have enough at one point.

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[-] Mio@feddit.nu 34 points 6 months ago

Microsoft got to much time on their hands. Can they please work on the more important stuff like completing the transition from controlpanel to settings?

[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago

If anything, they need to revert back to control panel.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

By the time they do that, they'll have introduced a third settings app, and only four options from the current Win8/8.1/10/11 one will have been ported to it.

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[-] jf0314@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

I tried building a Steam box with the bootleg version of SteamOS from the deck... Can't remember the name of the distro. Steam Games ran great for the most part, but getting Epic, EA and Ubisoft to work was a nightmare. If Linux can get that sorted, I'd never use Windows again.

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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In total, I expect this to cost about a minute or two of my life if they never remove the ads. This figure is fairly typical for daily windows users, of which ~400kk are on win11. Microsoft will steal ~1.5*400,000,000 minutes with these ads. Ads that nearly no one will even consider clicking. 600,000,000 minutes=10,000,000 hours=1140 years. Multiple lifetimes in aggregate, all to be thrown away for nothing. I’d like to send a very strongly worded knot tying tutorial to Satya Nadella and Brad Smith.

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[-] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 6 months ago

All that AI can't pay for itself, I guess.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

EU, please do something about that.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wait, so this is not about the power menu, it's about the pop up when clicking on your account picture bubble if you're signed in to a MS account. They aren't adding a step to logging out of your local Windows user, just to logging out of your Microsoft account if you're using that as a login for Windows, OneDrive and Office365.

The "Lock" button also has a new home—it now sits in the power menu alongside "Shut down," "Restart," and "Sleep" options.

THAT is where the Lock button was? Not gonna lie, I've been Windows-L-ing so long I didn't even know they had moved that to the account bubble.

I'll be honest, the article is a bit overdramatic. Yeah, they are surfacing your services there to upsell you on the ones you don't have, but it's actually not a useless piece of info (currently finding your subscriptions is an ordeal) and none of the functionality is gone. It is true that a lot of UX things around Win11 have gotten worse, though. I'm currently using additional software to replace the taskbar (which will do the Start menu, too, if you want) because the inability to move it to the sides is ridiculous on the OS you're most likely to pair with an ultrawide monitor.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'll be honest, the article is a bit overdramatic. Yeah, they are surfacing your services there to upsell you on the ones you don't have, but it's actually not a useless piece of info (currently finding your subscriptions is an ordeal) and none of the functionality is gone.

Look up "boiling a frog"

They count on this exact reaction.

Every time they implement these little bullshit changes, people inevitably go "It's annoying but it's not that big a deal." And then they do more of it a few months later.

The article isn't being hyperbolic because it's reacting to the overall trend that this is yet another step forward in. Because the writer and everyone here knows it will get worse and worse over time.

Dark patterns are, by design, slow and incremental so as not to trigger too much pushback at once. People need to start being more aware of it and pushing back on it when they see it.

And yes, that information is probably useful to some people, but that doesn't in any way justify hiding the options that used to be there.

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[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Jesus Fucking Christ. They really want people to switch to Linux, don't they?

Microsoft should stop trying to become another Apple. This is not going to work.

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[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 19 points 6 months ago

So they want people to pull the plug instead of signing out properly. If they don't can this before it leaves the Beta Channel, they're going to need to beef up their tech support, because the many office workers who use Windows mostly as a launcher for Excel won't have a clue.

[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

This sound like something they would totally do.

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