NYT Opinion: Government Surveillance Keeps Us Safe (www.nytimes.com)

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[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Nah, not buying that after living through 2 decades of the bullshit that 9/11 was used to shove up the ass of America and the rest of the world.

They didn't stop any of the big terrorist attacks like Jan. 6 which we all could see coming just by looking at social media, nor did they stop the Las Vegas concert massacre, or the many other massacres committed by people who always had numerous red flags ignored by authorities and associates. Nah.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 5 points 6 months ago

Also not a word about other countries, mostly China and Russia, interfering with US elections. smh.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Foreign election interference via propaganda is another grossly overblown threat.

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That's because it was never on the mind of the opinion writer. The author literally helped usher in the post-9/11 surveillance environment that sees massive paranoia and none of the surveillance used for solving crimes. They will watch all of us for dissent and discreetly punish those they seem "an other."

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago

Didn't know a bootlicker could speak

Caught the NYT sucking up to Cornell today as well

[-] snorkbubs@fedia.io 9 points 6 months ago

Those who trade privacy for security achieve neither.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

i left a comment about the origin of that saying in the cross-post of this thread. (i think the privacy/security/achieve version you posted is much better than the original one which said "deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".)

[-] snorkbubs@fedia.io 5 points 6 months ago

I'd avoided the exact quote for the reasons in your comment, but it works so well in this context that it's tough to let go of entirely. Glad you didn't just see it as a misquote! Nice work helping to keep the record straight.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Keeps the US gov in power and safe, not the citizenry.

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