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[-] pezmaker@sh.itjust.works 81 points 6 months ago

Hope they properly bolted in the door plugs

[-] 667@lemmy.radio 31 points 6 months ago

Why properly bolt them when you can just intimidate and harass the employees?

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Well, there’s no direct, incontrovertible, available evidence for that.

Yet.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

True but his statement from a few days before he died is pretty damning

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Let is see if there are any laat minute additions of employees to the flight crew.

[-] intrepid@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

I get the reference. But coincidentally, the Apollo I accident was related to the same. (RIP Ed White, Roger Chaffee, Gus Grissom)

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

We twisted them two extra times. Oh wait... It's lefty tighty, right?

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

From what I've heard the main hurdle they are tackling is getting the screen door to stop squeaking.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 29 points 6 months ago

I feel like if I was one of the astronauts picked, I'd fake the measles or something so I could nope the fuck out of it.

You want to believe that the quality control issues in their aircraft wing don't cross over to starliner, but delays, glitches and multiple other issues in Starliner say otherwise.

[-] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

It’s not like they had to do software updates on the fly to land it last launch.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Sure, I’m okay with flying on an orbiter with a 67% survival rate. But a Boeing spacecraft? Fuck outta here.

(Just to be clear I am in no way disagreeing with you)

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

I think a large part of that was that the majority of the shuttles service was spent in a pre-internet world. We literally didn't know the shuttles weaknesses until there were big incidents like Challenger and Columbia.

I was a kid in 86'. And (like a lot of others I'll bet) I was absolutely in awe of the shuttle. I was enamoured thanks to movies like SpaceCamp, etc...

Nowadays, with starliner, every failure in testing, every flaw, every glitch, is presented on a thousand tech blogs.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Why get there economically when you can get there for ten times the price?

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

They want redundancy. What if Musk goes crazy in a new direction and decides to retire Dragon.

[-] intrepid@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

They should have thought of redundancy for the HLS. For one, you have a space fuel depot with cryogenic boil off that has to be refilled by multiple (at least 12?) starships. And then you have a slender long full rocket stage that has to land vertically on soft and unprepared lunar regolith. For some reason, my engineering instincts are revolting just at the thoughts of it.

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

They should have thought of redundancy for the HLS

NASA wanted redundancy, and will eventually get it.

2020: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/nasa-awards-lunar-lander-contracts-to-blue-origin-dynetics-and-starship/

NASA announced Thursday that it has awarded three contracts to begin initial development of lunar landing systems that will take astronauts down to the surface of the Moon in less than five years.

2021: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/04/nasa-selects-spacex-as-its-sole-provider-for-a-lunar-lander/

About a year ago, NASA gave initial study and preliminary development contracts for Moon landers to SpaceX, Dynetics, and a team of aerospace heavyweights led by Blue Origin. The cost of SpaceX's bid was about half that of Dynetics, and one-fourth the amount received by Blue Origin. That frugality, at least in part, led NASA on Friday to choose SpaceX as the sole provider of landing services during the down-select phase.

SpaceX is the only affordable option, but BO makes a fuss: https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/heres-why-blue-origin-thinks-it-is-justified-in-continuing-to-protest-nasa/

2023: https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/05/blue-origin-wins-pivotal-nasa-contract-to-develop-a-second-lunar-lander/

NASA on Friday announced its selection of Blue Origin to build a second Human Landing System for its Artemis program to return to the Moon. The space company, founded by Jeff Bezos, will lead the development of a fully reusable lander that could take flight as soon as the end of this decade.

Friday's announcement represents a significant moment for NASA for multiple reasons. Importantly, it adds a second provider of human landing services. Previously, NASA awarded a contract to SpaceX for its Starship vehicle to serve as a lunar lander. That vehicle will be used for NASA's first two lunar landing missions, Artemis III and Artemis IV. So NASA gets the competition it covets, which has been shown to spur commercial development.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

They could shoot the occupants for free. Same glorious Boeing (tm) results fo no money.

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

They could probably get the human up there in 10 smaller cheaper launches for the same result.

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