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A Louisiana man has been sentenced to decades in prison and physical castration after pleading guilty to raping a teenager, according to a news release from the region's district attorney. 

Glenn Sullivan Sr., 54, pled guilty to four counts of second-degree rape on April 17. Authorities began investigating Sullivan in July 2022, when a young woman told the Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office that Sullivan had assaulted her multiple times when she was 14. The assaults resulted in pregnancy, and a DNA test confirmed that Sullivan was the father of the child, the district attorney's office said. Sullivan had also groomed the victim and threatened her and her family to prevent her from coming forward.

A 2008 Louisiana law says that men convicted of certain rape offenses may be sentenced to chemical castration. They can also elect to be physically castrated. Perrilloux said that Sullivan's plea requires he be physically castrated. The process will be carried out by the state's Department of Corrections, according to the law, but cannot be conducted more than a week before a person's prison sentence ends. This means Sullivan wouldn't be castrated until a week before the end of his 50-year sentence — when he would be more than 100 years old.

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 178 points 6 months ago

You know, I always used to say they ought to do this. But now, presented with the reality of it, I don't like it at all.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 57 points 6 months ago

I mean, when the state of Louisiana agrees, it's only reasonable to wonder if you're being the baddy.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

If I've learned anything after coming back to the south south (for some dumb reason) if you find yourself agreeing with the state you're definitely the baddy, with ☠️ and all.

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[-] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

This is because we can be of two minds about these things. You can have a personal response to heinous acts, but still think the government ought to be better.

If some guy murders the murderer of their kid, I can absolutely 100% understand why, and I could even admit that I might do the same in their position. But I still think that as a society we should not lower ourselves to this standard and I will always be against the death penalty (especially because the system will never be perfect and I will never think it's worth killing even one innocent person by accident).

It's why vigilante justice is so easily understood, but it's still something we, as a society, shouldn't accept.

Emotional reactions can cloud our minds to these things. But I absolutely agree with you. This is horrendous and barbarous. I can still somewhat understand the "he deserves it for what he did"-response, but I'm absolutely against this on a deeper level.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

I don't think it's about having "Two minds" about it, for as you describe it doesn't seem to fit the op, as he admitted that he wanted the state to do it.

Imo, this is about abstraction vs reality. In theory something might sound good, but when you are actually faced with the reality of it, it's a huge turnoff.

I'm reminded of the reddit story where a guy got into scat porn. It became a fetish so he hired a prostitute to shit in his mouth. On the day of the deed, once the shit hit his mouth, as he described it, he was "just a guy on the floor with shit in his mouth."

The shit is just hitting the OPs mouth right now.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago

Yeah I get wanting it, but I don’t want a government that can do it. I also don’t think a reasonable interpretation of the bill of rights allows it. How is removing body parts not cruel and unusual punishment?

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[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 46 points 6 months ago

Any punishment with no possibility of back pedaling should never be given. The chances of permanently harming a potentially innocent person are far too great.

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[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

The state having the power to do this is horrible. A victim doing this to their attacker with a butter knife on the other hand.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

This falls squarely under no cruel and unusual punishment for me. Heinous as the crime was this is just inhuman.

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 112 points 6 months ago

I'll take, "Laws that violate the 8th Amendment" for $100, Alex.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago

Nah see the 8th amendment no longer applies because he's a criminal.

-Louisiana State Supreme Court

Probably

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

So if Trump is found guilty...

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Making that poor old man sit in court for over 20 minutes is a violation of the 8th amendment if you listen to fox news.

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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 93 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What does physical or chemical castration even mean? And why is this a punishment when he is 100 years old?

Also, under current law there, no abortions are allowed unless life of mother is at risk, so they will castrate the rapist but force the mother to give birth?

What the actual fuck

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 93 points 6 months ago

Chemical castration is the lowering of hormones medically. Physical castration would by physical removal of the testes.

Welcome back to the dark ages. See you at next week's drawing and quartering. It's right after the hangings! Hopefully we get some real kickers!

[-] conquer4@lemmy.world 62 points 6 months ago

Lowering hormones medically? Sounds like something Trans, and that's illegal in the south.

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[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 91 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why add the physical castration part to plea if it doesn’t take effect until he’s 100, seems so pointless.

The American legal system is so barbarically fucked up.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Maybe to have it as a required part of his sentence, so while time can be reduced, perhaps the castration can't? I.e. he couldn't be released early unless he went through with the castration.

I dunno, I'm not a lawyer, just my guess. Fucked up either way on all sides of this.

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[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 45 points 6 months ago

Barbaric and inhumane. Cruel and unusual.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

and also just....weirdly fucking pointless. They are waiting till he is 100 to castrate him?

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago

That sounds like cruel and unusual, no?

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 35 points 6 months ago

Look, this guy is obviously a monster, but castrating someone doesn't undo the harm. That's just barbaric. Hard labor making license plates all day? Sure. Long sentence? I could see that.

We gotta have some moral minimums, though. Stuff like execution and castration is too far. What if they have the wrong guy? Even if it was him, mutilating their bodies is not what we should be doing on this continent.

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 months ago

enslavement is also barbaric

[-] ours@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Wouldn't this be considered "cruel or unusual punishment" which is banned by the constitution?

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[-] john89@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 months ago

Castration is 100% cruel and unusual punishment.

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[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 16 points 6 months ago

What the shit? Are they going to bring back "an eye for an eye" next?

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